Forge Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 21 hours ago, HolmesPriest said: Patrick Mahomes has, is, and will continue to outplay his draft pick. Joe Montana was a bigger steal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVRamsFan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Deacon Jones was a 14th round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Troy Williamson 6 players went before him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks98 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 11:54 PM, goldfishwars said: Definitely agree with Metcalf. How did anyone think stopping a 6'3 220 dude who runs a 4.3 would be easy? He has looked better then i expected i thought it would take a few years like it did for Tate to develop but he has been producing right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 i think what happened with metcalf was in the lead up he was probably getting mocked just a touch too early - i saw a few sending him to buffalo at nine - and then all of a sudden everyone cooled off on him at the same time, but overcompensated with it and he ended up falling too far from where he should’ve been the run on corners early in the second probably didn’t help either because some of those teams that went corner like arizona could’ve easily went metcalf too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Shady Slim said: i think what happened with metcalf was in the lead up he was probably getting mocked just a touch too early - i saw a few sending him to buffalo at nine - and then all of a sudden everyone cooled off on him at the same time, but overcompensated with it and he ended up falling too far from where he should’ve been the run on corners early in the second probably didn’t help either because some of those teams that went corner like arizona could’ve easily went metcalf too I think he's a classic example of people focussing on checking off all-round skills, instead of focusing on the things he can do extremely well. Guys who can do lots of things well can be less impactful than those who can do fewer things to a point where teams have to account for them snap after snap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, goldfishwars said: I think he's a classic example of people focussing on checking off all-round skills, instead of focusing on the things he can do extremely well. Guys who can do lots of things well can be less impactful than those who can do fewer things to a point where teams have to account for them snap after snap. I disagree, I think Metcaff is limited in what kinds of offensive schemes he fits so that limited the draft pool for him. He fits offenses like Philly, Baltimore, Seattle. The previous two had went wr already in the draft I still believe JJ had a higher ceiling and will be Alshons replacement . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 3:07 AM, N4L said: His skill set is able to shine in that offense because Wilson buys time and throws an accurate, catchable deep ball. DKs hands are so so and his route running is poor. He had to go to the right place to look like he has so far Dude I hadn't read your post before I typed that comment it's like I read your mind ^^. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Metcalf's mock average position (about 15th) was a product of social media. Everyone went ape **** over his size and photo of him flexing. Dillard, Winovich, Omenihu and Minshew came to mind immediately, for me. Edited November 10, 2019 by Hunter2_1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 6 hours ago, thebestever6 said: I disagree, I think Metcaff is limited in what kinds of offensive schemes he fits so that limited the draft pool for him. He fits offenses like Philly, Baltimore, Seattle. The previous two had went wr already in the draft I still believe JJ had a higher ceiling and will be Alshons replacement . His skillset isn't scheme specific at all, every offense can do with a vertical threat. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited November 10, 2019 by Bearerofnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 hours ago, goldfishwars said: His skillset isn't scheme specific at all, every offense can do with a vertical threat. I never get the "deep threat is scheme specific" arguments. Every team could use a deep threat or two. And in that case I think DK was properly drafted and isn't really a steal. I had a similar opinion when Bryant was going off with the Steelers and people were talking about finding a WR in the 3rd. Well, he only ran 3 routes. WR Screen, Slant, Fly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, warfelg said: I never get the "deep threat is scheme specific" arguments. Every team could use a deep threat or two. And in that case I think DK was properly drafted and isn't really a steal. I had a similar opinion when Bryant was going off with the Steelers and people were talking about finding a WR in the 3rd. Well, he only ran 3 routes. WR Screen, Slant, Fly. Yeah but let's take a look at context. He has had injury concerns in college, was known as a poor route runner. Has a 4.3 40 he screams 1 and done contract to me, and I think he was properly drafted. The value of that skillset makes him more likely to have a better return at his pick than Hollywood Brown at his pick. I know there's a lot to absorb there but it's more probable than not that my statements hold up imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I still love the Mack Wilson in round 5 selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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