3rivers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: while Arians noticed the lack of effort, the reality is that many of todays players are like this. I have seen MUCH worse and on plays that resulted in TD's Is VH3 a bust, or could he be a decent slot CB and zone CB? Hard to believe a 11th overall pick has no chance at all , but there I go with the draft Edited November 13, 2019 by 3rivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I mean, that biff by Whitehead was incomprehensible. You can't the blame on Hargreaves when your safety gets frozen up that badly... on that play at least. Straw that broke the camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: I mean, that biff by Whitehead was incomprehensible. You can't the blame on Hargreaves when your safety gets frozen up that badly... on that play at least. Straw that broke the camel's back. It's about (lack of) effort. VHIII started camp in BA's doghouse because of effort. Months later he either didn't learn or doesn't care. Gotta start somewhere to fix this defense. Weeding out the guys who aren't buying in is a good start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, 3rivers said: while Arians noticed the lack of effort, the reality is that many of todays players are like this. I have seen MUCH worse and on plays that resulted in TD's Is VH3 a bust, or could he be a decent slot CB and zone CB? Hard to believe a 11th overall pick has no chance at all , but there I go with the draft Plenty of Top 15 Picks that are CBs have been complete and utter busts with almost nothing to offer. CB is one of the highest position bust rates in the 1st Round in league history. There’s actually a higher success rate in the 2nd Round. Although of course a higher superstar rate in the 1st Round. Edited November 13, 2019 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 In terms of what he was drafted to be, he is a bust. I still think he can be a good slot corner for someone in need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 15 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: You can't suck and also take plays off. Tell that to the Giants coaching staff and 3/4 of their secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 That lack of effort by Hargreaves happened twice a game when Vaccaro was with us. Didn’t look that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ET80 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Ok. Hargreaves and Conley, your future CBs for the Texans. Who needs first round picks when you can get everyone else's old, slightly used first round picks for pennies on the dollar!? I betcha that 2021 1st round pick is on the Texans roster by 2024... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 😬 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaytrajik Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Didn't he look good at the combines? I thought he had blazing speed coming out of Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, RaidersAreOne said: Gonna have another osmele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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