ChaRisMa Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 You guys are dumb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: 90 thousand Americans and counting have died. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/list-74-actions-taken-by-trump-to-fight-virus-bolster-economy nice appeals-to-emotion. But they do not substitute for facts and actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: Are you saying you’re not concerned about 90k people dying? I really hope not. Do you really believe that 90,000 people have died from COVID in the U.S.? Regardless of who's doing the political spinning (which you and I won't agree on so let's not bother), NO ONE can really trust these numbers right now. The counters have come right out and admitted that if you had a minor case of COVID a month ago, recovered, and then died from a brain aneurysm yesterday, they are counting you as a "COVID death." So out of that 90,000, how many have died due to the virus? Three-quarters? Half? One-quarter? It's the same thing with "new" COVID cases. How many of those new cases are simply due to increased testing at that particular time? Hell, I've seen reports about new cases "spiking" within a few days in recently reopened states, yet this completely ignores the science that COVID incubates for up to 14 days. So a state opens on Sunday, there are 1,000 new cases on Tuesday and the narrative is "Reopening Too Early Leads To Explosion of New COVID Cases." Again, what numbers are we supposed to trust here? Edited May 18, 2020 by packfanfb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: At this point call it a free for all. We're only open until @Packerraymond gets in here. Might as well get it all out. You've got about 5-10 mins. Gooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I was going to say.....I thought we were supposed to leave the politics out of this one LOL. I’m only speaking for what I posted, but fact and fiction shouldn’t be political. No matter what team you are on, the truth should matter. 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: If we had been beyond reproach in our actions taken and had 50k deaths, you would be saying the same thing about 50k. For all the talk about how the US preparation has been a failure, the numbers you're supposedly advocating based on, tell a different story. Obviously our preparation wasn't beyond reproach. We had more deaths than we should have, but to claim that our actions taken were disastrous just really isn't true. And I think that’s a disgusting thing to say. This shouldn’t be politicized . These are lives we are talking about. Had we been prepared, there would have been way less deaths than we currently have. Everyone should be outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I was going to say.....I thought we were supposed to leave the politics out of this one LOL. Yea it should be, but the same group keeps bringing up these topics. This is like the 3rd discussion/thread that has sprung up. If others are going to start it, I’m not going to leave them to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I’m only speaking for what I posted, but fact and fiction shouldn’t be political. No matter what team you are on, the truth should matter. And I think that’s a disgusting thing to say. This shouldn’t be politicized . These are lives we are talking about. Had we been prepared, there would have been way less deaths than we currently have. Everyone should be outraged. I think it’s disgusting that you and your ilk try to exploit a global catastrophe to try and score political points with untested hypotheticals and hindsight-bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: And I think that’s a disgusting thing to say. This shouldn’t be politicized . These are lives we are talking about. Had we been prepared, there would have been way less deaths than we currently have. Everyone should be outraged. Serious question, how can anyone compare the US numbers to the rest of the world and be happy with the response? Yes, because when you posted the bold you definitely weren't making a political statement. Get out of here with that holier than though nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Don’t believe what you see, don’t believe what you hear, don’t believe scientists, don’t believe independent oversight; this is some scary s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Serious question, how can anyone compare the US numbers to the rest of the world and be happy with the response? Yes, because when you posted the bold you definitely weren't making a political statement. Get out of here with that holier than though nonsense. It really isn’t. You just know took it like that because you know it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Rainmaker90 said: Don’t believe what you see, don’t believe what you hear, don’t believe scientists, don’t believe independent oversight; this is some scary s***. We see a ton more than you do. You're entrenched in an echo chamber to suit your own confirmation bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Just now, Rainmaker90 said: It really isn’t. You just know took it like that because you know it’s true. So your purpose for complaining about the US response was . . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 You guys should fight to the death. Whoever wins was right 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Norm said: You guys should fight to the death. Whoever wins was right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I’m done. Please, don’t drink the Kool-Aid , or in this case, the disinfectant. ( seriously , don’t do it. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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