Dutch Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 hours ago, theuntouchable said: Just forewarning y’all that I’d be a part-time niner fan if Stafford goes there. As long ad you keep the monocle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie9er Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, 49erurtaza said: If its more than pick 12 i want nothing to do with with this trade. We have so many holes to fill and hardly any cap space not willing to give up more than 1st this year. And i love stafford but when it gets too expensive just walk away from the trade. I feel like his colt bound anyways they need a qb, out of the conference and they do trade the picks for player like buckner last off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie9er Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Forge said: The only thing that really, really worries me is Stafford potentially breaking down. That's my biggest fear with going in on him. He's a warrior, but the body can only take so much True that's one of my worries too him breaking down or doing a luck and calling it a day to look after his ailing body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Aussie9er said: If its more than pick 12 i want nothing to do with with this trade. We have so many holes to fill and hardly any cap space not willing to give up more than 1st this year. And i love stafford but when it gets too expensive just walk away from the trade. I feel like his colt bound anyways they need a qb, out of the conference and they do trade the picks for player like buckner last off season. I disagree. I am good with giving up #12 and the Saleh third for stafford. We can then trade Jimmy for NE's third. We would save 7m against the cap, would upgrade at QB, and we would move up in the third round. Sign me up for that. I start with #12 and then throw in the third if necessary. Im not going to let a free third we just got for a DC getting hired elsewhere be the difference between getting/not getting a QB upgrade. Its the same way I feel about moving up to get a QB in the top 5 and trading next years first, pull the goddamn trigger if you like the QBs available. Dont worry too much about the cost of the deal, QB is too important of a position to half *** it anymore Stafford could have an incredible 3/4 year run here. He does some things no other QB we have had in my lifetime can do. Its time. Our superbowl window is now. Would give us some time to figure out our backup/development QB as well. Take some big swings late in the draft and see what sticks. Maybe we strike gold and if not, just keep mining 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Looking at Stafford's contract, he is owed 20m and 23m over the next 2 years (Lions are responsible for 19m in dead space to trade him). I would be completely on board with tacking on 2 extra years for 30m each or something while simultaneously restructuring his contract. Maximum we could clear up would be 15m this year but raise his cap hits to 28,35,35 the following 3 seasons. Thats extremely reasonable and we would have enough money to do whatever we wanted this offseason and possibly begin rolling money over again Someone said kershaw and stafford are close, I had no idea so I googled it... LOL Calandro dubbed Kershaw “The Wall” because when he played goalie, nobody scored on him. He called Stafford “Hollywood” because of his propensity, late in games, to make dramatic shows of injuries. All right, Hollywood, it’s been a minute, you can get up now. Clayton Kershaw and Matthew Stafford: The Wonder Years | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustrianNiner Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Forge said: See, that's a worry for me. I don't know, I'm struggling to see that, even with the amount of teams probably interested in him. And if Stafford would really command such a price I'd rather talk to the Jets than the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, AustrianNiner said: I don't know, I'm struggling to see that, even with the amount of teams probably interested in him. And if Stafford would really command such a price I'd rather talk to the Jets than the Lions. Yeah, I dont know if I am willing to give up 2 firsts + for him with the injury concerns hes had I really wonder if he has a no trade clause. Franchise QBs tend to get them, I mean **** - Jimmy has one. If he does, then I think that can put a lid on the top of his market. This is a two horse race imo, us and the colts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 hours ago, N4L said: Yeah, I dont know if I am willing to give up 2 firsts + for him with the injury concerns hes had I really wonder if he has a no trade clause. Franchise QBs tend to get them, I mean **** - Jimmy has one. If he does, then I think that can put a lid on the top of his market. This is a two horse race imo, us and the colts There is no indication that he has one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 @Forge break down a potential restructure or extension if Stafford is traded here. What does that do to our cap situation next year and going forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, J-ALL-DAY said: @Forge break down a potential restructure or extension if Stafford is traded here. What does that do to our cap situation next year and going forward? Potentially knocks the cap hit next next year down to about 5-6, increases 2022 to about 27 or so. I'd expect it to be an extension. Given what it will cost to get him, I'd think we would want to lock him up for more than 2 seasons. After that, will depend on what his salaries are for 23 and beyond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Forge said: Potentially knocks the cap hit next next year down to about 5-6, increases 2022 to about 27 or so. I'd expect it to be an extension. Given what it will cost to get him, I'd think we would want to lock him up for more than 2 seasons. After that, will depend on what his salaries are for 23 and beyond Does giving him an extension affect how much of a cap hit the Lions take or it would happen after being traded? Getting the cap hit down to 5-6M would be amazing, especially if the cap ends up being more than 185M. At that point we can pretty much match any offer for Trent and even sign a solid free agent edge rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Does giving him an extension affect how much of a cap hit the Lions take or it would happen after being traded? Doesn't impact the lions at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Also, should be noted that we'd likely give up #12, which also "saves" about 3 million. That's about where I'd guess the first year cap hit for #12 amounts to this year. So instead of paying 9 to rookies on this cap year, it's like about 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Aussie9er said: True that's one of my worries too him breaking down or doing a luck and calling it a day to look after his ailing body. Stafford loves Football. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him play another 10 years if his body holds up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 18 hours ago, Forge said: See, that's a worry for me. I don't buy Albright's saying that age isn't a factor. Adams was 24 at the time of the trade, Stafford will be 33. That will decrease his value.And if thats the asking price, than i'd pass. Personally, i'm willing to start with the 12th pick and go on from there. Might take an extra pick and/or player Adams trade was also a gross overpay IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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