GangGreen420 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, ekill08x said: lol typical Jets. God at least wait till the season is over. Now he can legit mail it in the rest of the year. not going to bother arguing this one way or another. if Gase stays...part of this should be that he has to fire Dowell Loggans and hire a real OC/QB coach even if Gase wants to remain the play caller at first. Dowell should be nowhere near Sam Darnold. That guy couldn’t coach a mighty mites team. This is what beating the Giants will do for an idiot like CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ekill08x said: Except with whose the HC lol. Listen if this is truly Douglas’ call so be it because I trust Douglas. But don’t tell us you’ll let him do his thing if you are calling shots on the HC and the HC still reports to you. That’s an issue. If not, fine, then this is a baby step. I think because Gase and Douglas run different parts of the team it’s fair to have them both report individually. I remember the Idzik/Rex thing and Idzik has power over Rex and was trying to sabotage him. Douglas and Gase have a good relationship so it shouldn’t be an issue. Douglas has control of the 53 CJ said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, ekill08x said: Except with whose the HC lol. Listen if this is truly Douglas’ call so be it because I trust Douglas. But don’t tell us you’ll let him do his thing if you are calling shots on the HC and the HC still reports to you. That’s an issue. If not, fine, then this is a baby step. Lmao I thought the exact same thing. I’m gonna let the GM do his thing but he can’t pick his HC. if we stack a couple losses against these bad teams and or Darnold has some awful games this is going to backfire and it will be hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Even JD and Gase relationship is solid? I dunno but pressure will be overwhelming, though. Even if it's solid, yes. Gase has plenty of flaws, but this year was a total mindfck for any football team. Between the front office shift, lack of talent at key positions, the injuries (15! of 22 opening day starters have missed games), Sam's mono and all of the distractions, it was an easy decision for the Johnson's to make. Besides, firing a coach after 1 year is never a good look, and if they did with all of the above being factors, the coaching pool would not be as attractive as it could be in the future. Even if they aren't fully confident in Gase's ability as a head coach, he has a proven track record as an offensive coordinator/QB coach, is very detail oriented, and is big on the fundamentals. Unlike other offenses with big output like Kingsbury's (Air Raid) or McVay's (spread with minimal substitutions or packages - pretty much same look but different plays so easier for the QB to master), Gase pulls from a complex variety of schemes. His base is a WCO/Air Coryell conceptually with a ton of different play packages- from pre-snap motions, to flood concepts, to RPO. Each route has a very specific purpose, and his goal is to use route combinations to desigh a player open... the next-level intellect is why Peyton Manning liked and respected it so much, but not everyone is Peyton Manning and not every player is going to buy into it... many times the convoluted nature of it is its own enemy. Sam could play in one of those above mentioned schemes and have insane numbers as well, but challenging him in a complex scheme will bode well for him more so then a simple gimmicky scheme because he's learning how to be a real true "pro-style" QB. Productivity that's reliant on scheme is never sustainable because eventually defenses will catch up to the gimmicky nature and the QB hits a brick wall (see Goff)- at that point, it comes down to talent vs. talent, smarts vs. smarts, instincts vs. instincts... the great QBs will overcome, the average ones or "green" ones will struggle. In the end, the depth and difficulty of Adam's playbook plus emphasis on the fundamentals will help Darnold in the future, regardless whether it's with Gase or not long-term, which is why it's a little too early to can Gase for overseeing a "regressing" Sam Darnold. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Dr.O said: Damn. See y’all in 2021 Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Top 10 pick in 2021 🔥🔥🔥🔥 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekill08x Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: Top 10 pick in 2021 🔥🔥🔥🔥 We are going to have the most mediocre run stuffing non pass rushing defensive line ever! Where everyone is double teamed somehow and nobody quite gets there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Jets got a bad hc, took 2 years to fire richie kotite as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, ekill08x said: We are going to have the most mediocre run stuffing non pass rushing defensive line ever! Where everyone is double teamed somehow and nobody quite gets there. We're going to be posting mock drafts by week 1. Especially if Gase is the play caller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Well by this time next year Woody will be in charge again. Wonder what his thoughts are as an outsider not being in the building for this mess. All that lame media drivel CJ spewed today was meaningless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: We're going to be posting mock drafts by week 1. Especially if Gase is the play caller. I'm more concerned with his lack of ability running a team. Hopefully joe Douglas can build s team that can win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: This is what beating the Giants will do for an idiot like CJ Ain;t that the truth. Chris Johnson is a total buffoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 hours ago, rickyt31 said: Top 10 pick in 2021 🔥🔥🔥🔥 T-Law on the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 hours ago, ekill08x said: We are going to have the most mediocre run stuffing non pass rushing defensive line ever! Where everyone is double teamed somehow and nobody quite gets there. Lmao, it’s funny cause it’s true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, NYJets4716 said: I'm more concerned with his lack of ability running a team. Hopefully joe Douglas can build s team that can win How do you judge ones ability as you say “run a team” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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