DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wiseman compares to Joel Embiid and Anthony Davis a lot more than he compares to Robert Williams. Wiseman compares more to Mo Bamba and Robert Williams in terms of the diversity of his skill set and how developed that is. Keep grasping, those straws are yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, DoleINGout said: Wiseman compares more to Mo Bamba and Robert Williams in terms of the diversity of his skill set and how developed that is. Keep grasping, those straws are yours. Neither of those guys PER40 averaged what Wiseman was putting up in 22 mpg this season. Dude is a monster and those guys were/are major projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: in terms of the diversity of his skill set and how developed that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Robert Williams was a non-scorer. Wiseman was averaging 20 points in 22 mpg so far this season. Wiseman will be a 15/10/2 guy as a rookie next season. He's way more talented and advanced offensively than Williams is now. He's literally better as an 18 year old freshman than Robert Williams is in his 2nd year as an NBA player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) He's not like Embiid or Davis and he's even further from Williams and Bamba. Edited November 14, 2019 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Wiseman is on par with Dwight Howard as a prospect. They both offered the exact same type of skillset and can be impactful on both ends immediately. Just because he doesn't have a jumper doesn't mean he compares to any sloppy athletic no skill 7 footer. Might actually want to watch Wiseman play before making baseless claims like he's Robert Williams or Mo Bamba. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, beekay414 said: Might actually want to watch Wiseman play before making baseless claims like he's Robert Williams or Mo Bamba. You might want to address someone directly instead of being passive aggressive. That way someone actually knows when you’re addressing them and immediately has the chance to respond. I have watched Wiseman. I directly and clearly specified to @NYRaider that Wiseman is a higher regarded prospect. I never said, “he’s Robert Williams or Bamba.” You might want to actually take the time to comprehend what you read before making baseless claims about what others think. Wiseman is raw. Like, so raw that he isn’t a “Joel Embiid like player” at this point nor will he be anytime soon. Hence the comparison to a limited skill set. This is not a comparison of pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Wiseman is on par with Dwight Howard as a prospect. They both offered the exact same type of skillset and can be impactful on both ends immediately. Just because he doesn't have a jumper doesn't mean he compares to any sloppy athletic no skill 7 footer. Might actually want to watch Wiseman play before making baseless claims like he's Robert Williams or Mo Bamba. And like Howard he'll be a walking double-double the moment he gets to the league and makes the Warriors defense a lot better. (Assuming he ends up there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, beekay414 said: He's not like Embiid or Davis and he's even further from Williams and Bamba. Nice edit. Took away saying Wiseman is the closest thing to Greg Oden? Now I know how strongly you stand by your word. 👌🏼 Not surprised, just confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: 30/30 teams would take Wiseman over Williams. 1 hour ago, DoleINGout said: I agree. Your point is... ? I said a more accurate comparison at this point is Williams in terms of completeness of skillset. I didn’t say anything about Williams being the preferred prospect. That’s all you chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Nice edit. Took away saying Wiseman is the closest thing to Greg Oden? Now I know how strongly you stand by your word. 👌🏼 Not surprised, just confirmed. No, I thought that the Howard comparison was more accurate at this point in time. But you go on with ya bad self. You just pull **** out of your behind and then play the victim the moment people call you out on it. I've seen this song and dance before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DoleINGout said: Wiseman is raw. Like, so raw that he isn’t a “Joel Embiid like player” at this point nor will he be anytime soon. Hence the comparison to a limited skill set. He doesn't have a limited skillset tho. He's excellent in transition for a big man, he has a great feel for his back to the basket game and he's an elite finisher. You seem to think that because he doesn't have a jumper, he's limited when that's further from the truth than anything you've written so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: I said a more accurate comparison at this point is Williams in terms of completeness of skillset. And this is flat out wrong lol Williams has no skillset to speak of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: And this is flat out wrong lol Williams has no skillset to speak of. And this is flat out wrong lol 5 minutes ago, beekay414 said: He doesn't have a limited skillset tho. He's excellent in transition for a big man, he has a great feel for his back to the basket game and he's an elite finisher. You seem to think that because he doesn't have a jumper, he's limited when that's further from the truth than anything you've written so far. He is raw. Not comparable to Joel Embiid with only three games like @NYRaider said. I never said Wiseman wasn't athletic. 7 minutes ago, beekay414 said: No, I thought that the Howard comparison was more accurate at this point in time. But you go on with ya bad self. You just pull **** out of your behind and then play the victim the moment people call you out on it. I've seen this song and dance before. Okay bud, but I don't think we have interacted here much. Most of it from what I remember has been in the last week really and it is usually you jumping into the Jayson Tatum debacle. Not sure what the four stars are that you're referring to that I've pulled from my behind. Are you doing that right now, actually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I said the Warriors were gonna get the #1 pick when Steph, Dray, and DLo were all healthy. So I think they will need a couple more years of tanking to be good again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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