buno67 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 yep, Mason is 100% victim here... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfournier103 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Art_Vandalay said: Any discussion about Kitchens? The Browns already were the least disciplined team in the league, then this happens. Dude needs to go. This. The head coach MUST bear SOME responsibility for this. If I were the owner of the Browns, I’d want to know why one of my players tried to kill a man on a football field on national TV - and I’d want to know from the coach how that could have ever been allowed to happen on his watch. PS: I am ok with the suspensions handed down. I think everyone got what was fair. Edited November 15, 2019 by rfournier103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, TXsteeler said: Man Rudolph looks so bad but our Oline played atrociously as well. Can't believe we went from having one of the most talented offenses and least talented defenses to completely turning it around in two years. lost bell in contract negations that usually go well for the steelers lost Ben to a non-contact elbow injury lost AB to himself what a fitting end to that era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Are people really trying to blame Freddie for Myles swinging a helmet at a dude? Never change, NFL Gen. Never change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DawgX said: Are people really trying to blame Freddie for Myles swinging a helmet at a dude? Never change, NFL Gen. Never change. Dude you didn’t hear about how Freddie had the team practice ripping helmets off and swing them around during OL/DL one on one sessions during training camp. This was totally on Freddie. Heck last week vs the Bills a sideline microphone picked up Freddie telling The punter to rip the helmet of the runner right before a punt. Heck another example, vs the Pats, he had a dude jump offsides on purpose cause the RG didn’t hear the instructions to swing with the helmet in their hands after you rip it off. He is 100% to blame cause Freddie preaches ripping helmets off and swing them around. Literally what coach doesn’t preach that? to be serious if Freddie is to blame for this, then every other major dirty hit is to be blamed on the coaches Edited November 15, 2019 by buno67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, buno67 said: yep, Mason is 100% victim here... @11sanchez11. Some still images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Art_Vandalay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, DawgX said: Are people really trying to blame Freddie for Myles swinging a helmet at a dude? Never change, NFL Gen. Never change. Yeah, and they're trying to blame him for the Browns leading the league in penalties too. Don't they know a HC's job is to simply draw up plays!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, August4th said: Not Freddie's fault tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: @11sanchez11. Some still images Looks like he is pushing to me. And everyone knows the best way to stop a takedown or get up from a takedown is to push off the other person's head. That is when Mason is higher than Myles. And when Myles gets the higher position (when he is obviously on top) Mason goes from pushing to grabbing to maintain any leverage. That is my honest assessment. I don't care enough to keep arguing so I'm out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: Looks like he is pushing to me. And everyone knows the best way to stop a takedown or get up from a takedown is to push off the other person's head. That is when Mason is higher than Myles. And when Myles gets the higher position (when he is obviously on top) Mason goes from pushing to grabbing to maintain any leverage. That is my honest assessment. I don't care enough to keep arguing so I'm out. Blind or obtuse were your options and you chose obtuse, gotcha. We can agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Blind or obtuse were your options and you chose obtuse, gotcha. two great options to give another person when trying to have a civil conversation I have always said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: two great options to give another person when trying to have a civil conversation I have always said We can discuss any opinions and such you like and agree to disagree or see things differently. Pretending that facts are debatable is something entirely different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Pretending that facts are debatable is something entirely different. nailed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsurebro Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DawgX said: Are people really trying to blame Freddie for Myles swinging a helmet at a dude? Never change, NFL Gen. Never change. I think there are definitely people that will see the overall behavior of players on a team as a reflection of their coach. Edited November 15, 2019 by lolsurebro better wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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