RSkinGM Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I never said he was good but the declarations after two games is kinda silly. If he sucks next season then I totally get moving on but give the guy a chance. The whole “he’ll never be able to do this or that” is kinda crazy. Really leaves us between the rock and the other spot-- cause this is the year , the draft-- to get the Q B .. We could win 4 -5 games in 2020 and the elite Q Bs will be gone in the 2021 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, RSkinGM said: Really leaves us between the rock and the other spot-- cause this is the year , the draft-- to get the Q B .. We could win 4 -5 games in 2020 and the elite Q Bs will be gone in the 2021 draft. Trevor Lawrence will be in next years draft. If Haskins sucks we’re going to be real bad so we should be in line to draft him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Trevor Lawrence will be in next years draft. If Haskins sucks we’re going to be real bad so we should be in line to draft him. We'd better have the number 1 or someone will RGIII us . make the jump up .! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Time to play the ole Play Index Game again. Here are the numbers from some familiar QBs’ second starts: Eli Manning: 6/21, 148 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 16.9 rating Matt Ryan: 13/33, 158 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 29.6 rating Steve Young: 8/17, 53 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 29.8 rating Alex Smith: 8/16, 92 yards, 0 TDs, 1 INT, 41.7 rating Matt Hasselbeck: 9/24, 62 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 45.8 rating Joe Flacco: 13/19, 129 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 47.8 rating Peyton Manning: 21/33, 188 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 51.1 rating Donovan McNabb: 19/36, 155 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 51.3 rating Matthew Stafford: 18/30, 152 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 56.5 rating Lamar Jackson: 14/25, 178 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 58.4 rating Tom Brady: 12/24, 86 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs, 58.7 rating Cam Newton: 28/46, 432 yards, 1 TD, 3 INTs, 72.0 rating Sam Darnold: 25/41, 334 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 74.6 rating Daniel Jones: 23/31, 225 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 78.0 rating Point being, rookie QBs are typically not good. Haskins is in a worse situation than most rookie QBs, with less experience to prepare him for the role. For the most part, the only guys who play well right out of the gate are the ones who got to sit for a long time, the ones who are superior athletes that can be competitive simply because of their sheer athleticism/physical talents, or the ones who have a great team around them. None of those is Haskins. And admittedly, it’s been even rockier than expected with him, I think. But it takes a while to develop a great NFL pocket passer, especially when you’re trying to grow them in an unhealthy environment. Many of the best QBs in history struggled mightily early on. They worked through it — I think we ought to give this guy a chance to do the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I believe like that his lack of playing time will limit his progression. If you believe he has the goods, it will take longer as opposed to a four year starter in college. He definitely has the talent but my biggest worry is how coachable he is and as I said before in other posts is his attitude towards being a team guy. I guess I want someone with high character. IMHO you need that if you’re the leader of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Rookie and young QBs have to earn veteran players trust by playing well. All this says to me is that Dwayne hasn’t earned it yet. I hope he does sometime soon by playing better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, ARTMONK HOF said: I believe like that his lack of playing time will limit his progression. If you believe he has the goods, it will take longer as opposed to a four year starter in college. He definitely has the talent but my biggest worry is how coachable he is and as I said before in other posts is his attitude towards being a team guy. I guess I want someone with high character. IMHO you need that if you’re the leader of the team. Has anyone on the team said he’s not a high character guy? I haven’t heard that once said about Haskins. Not this year or the previous two years when he was at Ohio State. And, are we really going to blame Haskins for being frustrated with Jay Gruden when it was clear that Jay was more interested in getting Keenum ready for the season than to work with Haskins and develop him for the future. Jay basically ignored Haskins, then reporters report that Haskins isn’t ready and all this stuff, but that’s bc Jay had no interest in getting Haskins ready to ply this year. I mean, that’s as clear as day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I didn’t say he wasn’t a high character guy. It’s far too early and haven’t seen him enough to make that determination. I just hope he is of high character and a team guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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