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Poems of Mud

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MoL: Miserable Old Losers

Director: Joe and Anthony Russo
Primary Characters:

  • Vernon Mission (portrayed by Clint Howard): Teddy’s best friend and co-worker at a call center, Mission has a habit of doing the stupidest things with his best pal. He has an interesting outlook at life and has a habit of impulsively doing things without thinking about potential consequences or others.
  • Teddy L. Olsen (portrayed by Danny Devito): Vernon’s best friend and co-worker at a call center, he appears meek and tries his best to be the voice of reason but Mission has a habit of persuading him to do stupid stuff too. Although he acts meek at times, he is every bit as compulsive as Mission and can initiate activities as well.
  • Fantasy Mission (portrayed by Nicolas Cage): When Mission and TLO get into the thick of things, the figures in the show becomes skewed and as a result, Fantasy Mission emerges. He represents Mission’s ideal self both physically and mentally, although that’s not necessarily a good thing. His looks are inspired by a few 1990s movies that he and TLO saw on TV one particularly strange night.
  • Fantasy TLO (portrayed by John Travolta): When Mission and TLO get into the thick of things, the figures in the show becomes skewed and as a result, Fantasy TLO emerges. He represents TLO’s ideal self both physically and mentally, although that’s not necessarily a good thing. His looks are inspired by a few 1990s movies that he and Mission saw on TV one particularly strange night.

Setting: Primarily modern day New York/California

Synopsis:

  • Episode 1 - Vernon Mission (Cage) and Teddy L. Olsen (Travolta) are hotshots on Wall Street: creating deals and becoming the talk of the town. There’s another employee (Malfatron) jealous of how awesome they are and tries to sabotage their work by falsifying different transactions. To get revenge, Mission and TLO DP’s the employee’s mom and gets him fired. In the final five minutes, it is revealed that Mission and TLO are actually played by Devito and Howard and that these people were a fantasized version. It is revealed that the other employee actually made fun of a couple old farts stuck in it as a career and you see Mission and TLO drinking Lysol from a can and vigorously fornicating with a holiday ham in front of everyone. Malfatron and Forge appears as call center employees.
  • Episode 2 - Fantasy Mission and TLO have become acquainted with Steven Spielberg in Hollywood. They’re too smug to get into movies, but when Spielberg offers them a chance to go on a fossil dig with some of his colleagues from Jurassic Park, they can’t refuse. The dig is in Colorado, where they’re treated to the finest marijuana money can buy. Over the course of the dig, they discover a complete T-Rex fossil that completely redefines everything anyone thought they knew about the species. At the end, it is revealed that their adventure came following smoking Lysol laced joints. After bumping into an old man, TLO had dropped his phone in a sewer and both jumped in to hunt it down. The fossil find would reveal that Mission had TLO’s cell phone the whole time and TLO had just dropped a cool rock he found. Orca and Pickle Rick appear as paleontologists.
  • Episode 3 - Our two heroes have come into a small fortune following the passing of a family member and decide to use it to buy a Lamborghini. They drive around the streets of New York planning out their futures when they stumble upon Jets cheerleaders. They decide to hook up and head out for a wild night of partying and cocaine. It is finally revealed that they've been rolling downhill in an abandoned shopping cart after huffing Clorox and started a riot in a soup kitchen. Daboyle appears as a Lamborghini salesman and ET and Ted appears as homeless men in the Soup Kitchen.
  • Episode 4 - Fantasy Mission and TLO go to San Francisco on a business trip and get embroiled in a noir mystery. It’s filmed in black and white.  TLO’s character gets involved with an Asian lady with family members caught up in human trafficking. TLO’s character spends the whole time telling Mission it’s going to end poorly. An argument between TLO and the Asian lady ends disastrous with TLO getting shot and dies. It is revealed that they were actually at an all you can eat buffet.  They’re drinking CLR they found in the bathroom mixed with Coke. TLO had piled his plate over a foot high and an Asian employee is yelling at him not to put so much on his plate. Mission keeps saying he will never get it back to the table. TLO trips and drops the plate, falls down and starts crying. TLO proceeds to eat the food off the floor while lying on his side crying. Outpost and Swag appears as restaurant patrons.

 

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Smug Squad

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Character Descriptions:
Director: Seth MacFarlane
Smug Goat (Seth MacFarlane): Smug Goat is a smug *** goat who lives his life smugly. In the show he begins to doubt his smugness due to trials and tribulations in his life before finally recovering his smugness. 
Kacey Goat (Kacey Musgraves): Kacey Goat is a goat who obviously isn't as smug as Smug Goat, but is still plenty smug. She impresses Smug Goat with her smugness, attractiveness, and teeth.
God (James Earl Jones): He is god and he's pretty smug but gets offended by Smug Goat being smugger than he is. He has a deep voice.
Cecil the Lion (Idris Elba): Cecil is an African lion with a bad African accent who dies very early on.
Tyty Goat (Seth Green): A loser goat who has no life. His stepson ****s on him constantly and he's morbidly obese. He dies.
Dr. Frog (Larry David): A doctor who constantly is delivering news of death to Smug Goat.


Setting: Takes place in present day Arizona in a regular town.

Synopsis:
Episode 1: The episode opens on Smug Goat being awoken from a smug dream by a deep voice. Smug is rattled. The voice reveals himself to be God and says he needs to repent for the sins of the beasts of the earth. God appreciates Smug’s smugness and says Smug's the chosen one. God instructs him to build an ark for a coming flood. Smug says he is not a Home Depot but listens since he's a God-fearing goat. He goes to the Home Depot and buys his goods, feeling smug about being the chosen one. He builds the smuggest looking ark possible, with floor-to-ceiling mirrors and lots of sinks. Smug’s friend Cecil the Lion stops by to help but has an arrow in his heart. Smug takes him to see Dr. Frog. Smug waits in the waiting room while Cecil is checked out. Smug's steamed. Frog comes out and tells Smug that Cecil has died from internal bleeding from the arrow, a concussion and a heart attack. Smug Goat is rattled.

Episode 2: The episode opens on a traditional African lion funeral for Cecil. Smug is upset but doesn’t show it, staring smugly at his reflection in the handrails of Cecil’s coffin. Afterwards, Smug goes to the gym where he meets Kacey Goat. He is impressed by her smugness, attractiveness, and great teeth. When he gets home Smug speaks to god. He tells him that only the smuggest animals can come on the ark. Since no animal is as smug as he is, he will take no animals onto the ark except for Kacey Goat. God tells him he has to take other animals onto the ark. Smug is steamed but complies. He picks the smuggest looking animals he could find. God is upset that Smug is only picking smug animals, but Smug tells him to deal with it. God is rattled. He smites Smug Goat.
 
Episode 3: The episode opens on Smug Goat’s traditional smug funeral. God is upset but doesn’t show it, staring smugly at his reflection in the handrails of Smug Goat’s coffin. Smug suddenly wakes up from his dream. He's rattled. Being smug almost killed him. Smug wonders if he's too smug. He goes to the gym and sees Kacey again. He tries talking to her again but she's steamed at his doubt in his smugness and leaves. Smug's rattled. He leaves the gym and runs into Tyty Goat. Tyty tells him that he's depressed, morbidly obese, and has cancer. So Smug takes him to Dr. Frog. Smug is in the waiting room when  Frog comes to tell him that Tyty doesn't have cancer. Smug Goat is heated. Dr. Frog tells him that they found a paper cut in tyty which killed him. Smug is rattled.
 
Episode 4: The episode opens on a traditional goat funeral with a buffet and a cash bar. Smug is upset but doesn’t show it, staring smugly at his reflection in the handrails of Tyty’s coffin. He gives a speech about the importance of smugness and how you can’t doubt your smugness. If Smug hadn’t doubted his smugness he wouldn’t have taken Tyty to the hospital and his paper cut wouldn’t have been discovered. After the funeral he goes to the gym. Kacey Goat arrives, saying she liked his speech. He asks her for a blowjob and she obliges. Afterwards, God comes to Smug and apologizes for not being smug enough. To repent, God decides to stop the flood and make everyone more smug instead. The show ends with Smug Goat reciting a smug poem to God.

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Please read over both of these television show ideas and reveal which pitch you think was best executed/or which show you'd be most likely to watch. 

 

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Poems of Mud VS. Smug Squad Television Show Pitch

Initial Impression:

Miserable Old Losers... an obvious play on MoL... My first impression is we're getting an adaptation of the story of Mission and TLO. I'm intrigued. 
The Adventures of Smug Goat... I love this premise. The smug goat is a character I find to be fascinating. This could go in a lot of different directions....

Initial Impression: It's neck and neck before I read anything...

 

Examining the posters...

MoL features fantastic casting all on display in the poster. It looks legit. Well put together and looks like a good time. The Smug Goat poster... features an absolute gem picture of smug goat, which I believe makes it a solid poster. The ******* face on that goat might be my favorite animal picture of all time. But clearly the MoL poster was the better manufactured poster. I give a pretty sizable advantage to the MoL show here.... 

Poster: considerable advantage to PoM

 

Director Choice: 

SM is a fantastic choice for the smug goat show... i love that pick. The Russo brothers doing the MoL show is ok. I know they did the avengers movies, but I wouldn't consider myself a fan. Tonally it seems different than what I'd expect. I liked SS's director choice more here.

Director: liked SS's choice there more

 

Casting: PoM's casting is perfect. I love it. The character descriptions seem lovely. I'm a fan of what's going on there. Reading the casting and character descriptions in SS's show made me legit lol. I loved it. I'm not as familiar with some of the guys and I hate casting Kacey Musgraves. I get it. But I don't like it. 

Casting: very slight edge to PoM's on account of the Musgraves decision. 

 

Actual Show: Ok now I'm going to read the actual shows. I'm going to read both Episode 1's and then report back with my thoughts...

Episode 1 PoM: fantastic. I loved it. Gripping TV. I think I would be highly entertained and it'd never be boring. I'd be pumped for the next episode.
Episode 1 SS: start seemed to lack contextualization. not a bad thing. we're thrown into the universe and it ends up being very appealing. at the end cecil dies, but why do we care? we don't know cecil. it was intriguing, but could've been fleshed out more effectively.

Episode 1: PoM had the advantage here

Episode 2 PoM: Ok this episode wasn't as good as the first imo. Is this leading to anything I'm wondering now? Or is this an Always Sunny type where order doesn't matter? It wasn't bad content, but I was intrigued to see a continuation from the first episode. 
Episode 2 SS: this is a solid story. i like where it's going. it's a good time and leaves people wondering whether smug goat will forever be hindered by his own smugness in an unsmug world.

Episode 2: SS has the advantage here

Episode 3 PoM: This is confirmed a sitcom where order doesn't matter. Definitely makes it harder to compete with SS given it's 4 unique stories. It's a fun premise, but it's getting redundant. We know it's going to be fantasy Miss/TLO doing what they project on the forum vs. a more likely scenario of doing some silly bull**** together. After the first episode it's kind of lost it's luster that it initially had with me. 
Episode 3 SS: this story gets better with each episode. the parallels to life are present and writing in the same tone, maintaining the same mood is good ****. it's intriguing despite the silliness and lack of focus. 

Episode 3: again i give the edge to SS. PoM is ok, but it's formulaic at this point. 

Episode 4 PoM: It's decent content. This show has it's lost it's steam though. Stakes seem low and we're not leading to anything. The show was funny just wished it was leading somewhere.
Episode 4 SS: I was hoping for something bigger at the end. Stayed true to the values of the show though. Was a decent story with a lot of funny content. 

Episode 4: I'd give this one to SS again.

 

Overall Thoughts:

Miserable Old Losers just lost steam after the first episode. It became obvious how each episode was going to play out. It was a fun concept with great characters. Smug Goat was another great concept that I believe was just better executed. As I was reading the synopsis's I was far more intrigued about what was going on with Smug Goat as opposed to the Miserable Old Losers. Their poster game was elite though. And the casting was great. It made this close, but ultimately I was somewhat disappointed in the plot of the MoL show. So I have to give my decision to....

 

Smug Squads: The Adventures of Smug Goat 

Congratulations you've received my vote! You're in need of two more votes to win Phase 5.

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