TitanSlim Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 I love Zion to death but I can't see how you can pick against Luka at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 BUMP ! ZION says hello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Luka is already a top 10 player in the NBA. I think Zion has the upside to be the best two way player in the NBA and a better overall player, but I don't see how you pick against the 20 year old whos like the 8th or 9th best player in the NBA. Zion is probably the toolsiest player I've seen in any sport since LeBron though. He can do anything. He could be a 65 2pt%, 40% 3pt, 25 point, 10 rebound, 5 assist player making all defense teams. He can also get injured and not play much. Luka is a the surest thing you are ever going to get at a HoF 20 year old talent there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Zion had an outstanding debut. Thing is he didn't alleviate any of my injury concerns. He looked hobbled and overweight last night. The fact that he produced they way he did is remarkable but I see this issue lingering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Zion had an outstanding debut. Thing is he didn't alleviate any of my injury concerns. He looked hobbled and overweight last night. The fact that he produced they way he did is remarkable but I see this issue lingering. Not sure what you expected when he’s playing his first game back from knee surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Not sure what you expected when he’s playing his first game back from knee surgery. Considering he took significantly longer to come back than expected...maybe no limp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 who would have thought that Zion's first game back would be that electric WHILE NOT involving a dunk... I agree with above though, Zion looked heavy and his injury concerns can not be alleviated for his future. While I understand his injury did not allow him to physically train himself into shape, it did not appear his diet was working either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 11 hours ago, roger murdock said: Luka is already a top 10 player in the NBA. I think Zion has the upside to be the best two way player in the NBA and a better overall player, but I don't see how you pick against the 20 year old whos like the 8th or 9th best player in the NBA. Zion is probably the toolsiest player I've seen in any sport since LeBron though. He can do anything. He could be a 65 2pt%, 40% 3pt, 25 point, 10 rebound, 5 assist player making all defense teams. He can also get injured and not play much. Luka is a the surest thing you are ever going to get at a HoF 20 year old talent there is. while I agree with most of this, as I stated already, I just don't see how Zion has the ceiling to be an all defensive player. I get that he will block some amazing shots, but just don't see how he will be ale to stay in front of some of the faster players on PNRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, resilient part 2 said: while I agree with most of this, as I stated already, I just don't see how Zion has the ceiling to be an all defensive player. I get that he will block some amazing shots, but just don't see how he will be ale to stay in front of some of the faster players on PNRs You act like Zion is slow laterally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: You act like Zion is slow laterally geez, not elite enough laterally doesn't mean slow.. we both had this debate. You see great agility , I don't.. If my man Ja does one of his crossovers, he may blow Zion's knee right out.. LOL .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, resilient part 2 said: geez, not elite enough laterally doesn't mean slow.. we both had this debate. You see great agility , I don't.. If my man Ja does one of his crossovers, he may blow Zion's knee right out.. LOL .. How many big men can stay with the elite guards of the league? Thats just an unrealistic expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, MookieMonstah said: How many big men can stay with the elite guards of the league? Thats just an unrealistic expectation. maybe none. I get that, so that comment just proves my point then doesn't it. I don't expect Zion to have a Rudy Gobert type of defensive impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, resilient part 2 said: maybe none. I get that, so that comment just proves my point then doesn't it. I don't expect Zion to have a Rudy Gobert type of defensive impact. lol that literally makes no sense. Who is blowing by Zion that he'll have to consistently guard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: lol that literally makes no sense. Who is blowing by Zion that he'll have to consistently guard? many speedy PGs in the league and they do most of the PNRolling. Then if you factor that Zion will play some/a lot of 5 man small ball. there are centers who can just shot over the top of him easily. how about this, we will give it a year or 2 and can re-visit this one. It doesn't appear that either of us will be changing our mind anytime soon. Edited January 23, 2020 by resilient part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: many speedy PGs in the league and they do most of the PNRolling. Then if you factor that Zion will play some/a lot of 5 man small ball. there are centers who can just shot over the top of him easily. how about this, we will give it a year or 2 and can re-visit this one. It doesn't appear that either of us will be changing our mind anytime soon. Who is "easily" shooting over the top of Zion? With his strength and hops? Zion will be more than fine in the PnR. This is one of the worst takes I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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