baltimoreRebel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Heck of a game. You guys have a good squad over there. I don't think any of us would mind running that one back in February. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub_City30 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Cant be mad we lost a close one. I still seeing we end up in the superbowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dub_City30 said: No if course its early in the game and being agressive is cool even it fails. But when the other team has a runing game like they do and with the game on the line. You have convert in that 4th down. So if we run and don't get it you will still be mad. So what exactly did you want Shanahan to do. Call some kind of play that will never fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFrush Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Swift21 said: Clock management is Shanny's only flaw. It's now cost us two games. Hate to say it but I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Just now, Dub_City30 said: Cant be mad we lost a close one. I still seeing we end up in the superbowl just hope we are playing against a normal team while there... gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struby3 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: 4th and 2 early in the game and we pass for a 33 yard TD. 4th and 1 and we pass to Sanders and get a DPI. Again, stop overthinking this. Sure, and they held the Ravens to 20 points and under 300 yards. They are a great offense and best in the league, and they didn't come close to putting up their usual numbers. Maybe you just have crazy unrealistic expectations. It's certainly not crazy to expect a better defensive performance if we are indeed talking about an ELITE performance. Elite means the best of the best. Was this really the best defensive performance you could expect? You use hyperbolic language too often. How could an ELITE defensive performance lose the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 This is why I don't get why some think our defense was NOT elite today. I mean 4.8 yards per play is damn good, especially against this offense. Again, the reason we lost was because we got three off a Jackson fumble, while they got seven off a Jimmy G fumble. Gould missed a 51 yard FG and Tucker nailed a 49 yard FG. They took advantage of their opportunities while we didn't. Oh well, just have to respond next week. So back to running or not running it on 4th and 1. I've said it all along, but us not being a power run team really kills in these situations. Even in the RZ we have some issues because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The end of the half biting us hard in this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struby3 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, J-ALL-DAY said: This is why I don't get why some think our defense was NOT elite today. I mean 4.8 yards per play is damn good, especially against this offense. Again, the reason we lost was because we got three off a Jackson fumble, while they got seven off a Jimmy G fumble. Gould missed a 51 yard FG and Tucker nailed a 49 yard FG. They took advantage of their opportunities while we didn't. Oh well, just have to respond next week. So back to running or not running it on 4th and 1. I've said it all along, but us not being a power run team really kills in these situations. Even in the RZ we have some issues because of this. It's because your definition of ELITE is incorrect. This is almost identical to our argument about Chase McLaughlin being "excellent" against Seattle despite shanking a field goal 30 miles left of the stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, struby3 said: It's certainly not crazy to expect a better defensive performance if we are indeed talking about an ELITE performance. Elite means the best of the best. Was this really the best defensive performance you could expect? You use hyperbolic language too often. How could an ELITE defensive performance lose the game? Huh? The Ravens scored 20 points, 7 off a short field, had less than 300 yards and averaged 4.8 yards per play. Take into consideration we were playing THE best offense in the league that was averaging over 15 PPG than what they finished with today. I don't think I am using hyperbolic language AT ALL here. I'm just curious, before the game, what were you expecting? Did you expect them to gain under 250 yards and score 10 points or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, struby3 said: It's because your definition of ELITE is incorrect. This is almost identical to our argument about Chase McLaughlin being "excellent" against Seattle despite shanking a field goal 30 miles left of the stadium. No, I don't think my definition of elite is incorrect at all here. Our differences in both arguments have been that you are expecting perfection. If that is the case, sure, I am using hyperbolic language. You go ask any Ravens fans or fans of teams all around the league and see what they say about our defensive performance today. I bet damn near all of them would say we had a great performance on that side of the field. Edited December 1, 2019 by J-ALL-DAY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struby3 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, J-ALL-DAY said: No, I don't think my definition of elite is incorrect at all here. Our differences in both arguments have been that you are expecting perfection. If that is the case, sure, I am using hyperbolic language. You go ask any Ravens fans or fans of teams all around the league and see what they say about our defensive performance today. I bet damn near all of them would say we had a great performance on that side of the field. Are a "great performance" and "elite performance" the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Have to close games out, and get the ball back to your O in the end. We didn't. The D showed that they are very good. No one can break this goofy cheese Baltimore O yet, is all. Whatever... moving along to real teams, for the now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 HUGE shout out to Fred Warner. Allowed the TD early in the game, but my goodness was he all over the field and making big plays in the passing game. You sir have the ability to be a top level LB if you clean up on your tackling. #51 on the other hand? Tough game but thought he played better as they game went on. Spoon/Ward are just playing at an another level right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, struby3 said: Are a "great performance" and "elite performance" the same thing? You tell me if they are the same thing to you? Define elite to me? Tell me a defense that has played the Ravens better during their win streak and give me your expectations from our defense in this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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