gopackgo972 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe said: That's the point. If we have another game against them the way we did against the Chargers, we should be tanking because we don't have the ability to win another game if we can't beat the Giants... 7 straight losses... something has to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Joe said: That's the point. If we have another game against them the way we did against the Chargers, we should be tanking because we don't have the ability to win another game if we can't beat the Giants... Understood.....but thats not gonna happen. The Giants DL isnt the Chargers....or San Fran's. Not even close. I'm not saying we're gonna crush them. We dont need to. We just need to play a clean game, execute, come out with a W - then do it again next weekend against Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, YaddaHolla said: 7 straight losses... something has to give. It does. It has to go to 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Leader said: Understood.....but thats not gonna happen. The Giants DL isnt the Chargers....or San Fran's. Not even close. I'm not saying we're gonna crush them. We dont need to. We just need to play a clean game, execute, come out with a W - then do it again next weekend against Washington. Ok, I have to spell out my point....ready? If we lose this game, we should be tanking because we lack the ability to win a game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Joe said: Ok, I have to spell out my point....ready? If we lose this game, we should be tanking because we lack the ability to win a game... The only time I would give ANY consideration to tanking, is if the Packers were mathematically out of the playoffs.............and though I could understand that, I wouldn't like it even then. You play to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe said: Ok, I have to spell out my point....ready?If we lose this game, we should be tanking because we lack the ability to win a game... Point noted - but thats not what you'd said. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if we lay an egg in this game. Minus some egregiously bad execution - THATS on the coaching staff. If the Packers dont come out ready to devour the Giants....I'm looking at MLF and wondering why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joe said: Ok, I have to spell out my point....ready? If we lose this game, we should be tanking because we lack the ability to win a game... We should only tank if we are out of the playoffs. What ******* team would tank at 8-4? Come on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Leader said: Point noted - but thats not what you'd said. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if we lay an egg in this game. Minus some egregiously bad execution - THATS on the coaching staff. If the Packers dont come out ready to devour the Giants....I'm looking at MLF and wondering why. It actually is what I said so don't spin it. If we do lose this game, we should be firing MLF after the season. We have 8 wins mainly as the result of the defense led by the Smiths stepping up, period. Of the three teams we've beaten by 10 or more points, two of them have been destroyed by the Jets and the third is a team who can't decide on a QB. You can question why an 8-4 team would tank, but then you can look at the rest of the schedule. If we can't beat the Giants, it shows that we are unable to win a game; that's the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Joe said: It actually is what I said so don't spin it. If we do lose this game, we should be firing MLF after the season. We have 8 wins mainly as the result of the defense led by the Smiths stepping up, period. Of the three teams we've beaten by 10 or more points, two of them have been destroyed by the Jets and the third is a team who can't decide on a QB. You can question why an 8-4 team would tank, but then you can look at the rest of the schedule. If we can't beat the Giants, it shows that we are unable to win a game; that's the point. So the other 8 wins dont count now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Joe said: It actually is what I said so don't spin it. If we do lose this game, we should be firing MLF after the season. We have 8 wins mainly as the result of the defense led by the Smiths stepping up, period. Of the three teams we've beaten by 10 or more points, two of them have been destroyed by the Jets and the third is a team who can't decide on a QB. You can question why an 8-4 team would tank, but then you can look at the rest of the schedule. If we can't beat the Giants, it shows that we are unable to win a game; that's the point. I understood your point(s). This is what you said: If we have another game against them the way we did against the Chargers we should be tanking because we don't have the ability to win another game if we can't beat the Giants... Not this: We lose this game, we should be tanking because we lack the ability to win a game... I pointed out the Giants aren't the Chargers (or Niners). They're the losers of seven straight and the likelihood they could blow us out like the LAC (or SF) is ludicrous. The "we cant win another game" is ludicrous. The "we should tank" (at 8+4) is ludicrous. Those are my points. The Packers should come out of the tunnel on Sunday ready to beat the living **** out of the Giants. Pound them. Make THEM pay for the ***kicking SF imposed on us. If that attitude doesnt show up - thats on MLF IMO. Nobody on the GBPs should take the Giants lightly. They should be looking to destroy them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe said: You can question why an 8-4 team would tank, but then you can look at the rest of the schedule. If we can't beat the Giants, it shows that we are unable to win a game; that's the point. Never play poker (you'd lose with that attitude). If the Packers lose to the Giants they would be 8-4 and could still get to 12 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: So the other 8 wins dont count now? If we lose this game and lose on the road to Minnesota, that means we're the 6 seed playing on the road again in Minnesota, which would probably be a loss. So, would you rather have a higher pick in the late teens or a lower pick in the early to mid 20's? I think I'd rather have the higher picks over being frustrated over another embarrassing playoff loss that we, at that point, would have backed our way into. We've discussed how bad our IDL, the right side of our OL, and the depth behind Blake Martinez who may not be back next season regardless of how we feel regarding that situation. If we're not going to be competitive then there's no sense in risking the health of our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: Never play poker (you'd lose with that attitude). If the Packers lose to the Giants they would be 8-4 and could still get to 12 wins. Apples and oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Joe said: If we lose this game and lose on the road to Minnesota, that means we're the 6 seed playing on the road again in Minnesota, which would probably be a loss. So, would you rather have a higher pick in the late teens or a lower pick in the early to mid 20's? I think I'd rather have the higher picks over being frustrated over another embarrassing playoff loss that we, at that point, would have backed our way into. We've discussed how bad our IDL, the right side of our OL, and the depth behind Blake Martinez who may not be back next season regardless of how we feel regarding that situation. If we're not going to be competitive then there's no sense in risking the health of our players. Bro this is the same conversation we had last year when we had 5 ******* wins! Why are we contemplating this now when we have 8? Do you know how dumb it would be to give up on a season when you're not out of the playoffs just because we could have a better pick? That's loser mentality and if Lafleur chose that way he should be fired based on that decision alone. No team would choose to get a better pick over the playoffs, nor have any team ever went with that dumb fan strategy in all the years of football. We're getting way too ahead of ourselves here. Edit: When we went to the Super Bowl we were 8-6 before the run, 2016 when we were 4-6, and went to the NFC championship. Why didnt we tank then? Because teams dont give up. And we wanna start talking tanking at 8-3? Edited November 27, 2019 by Gopackgonerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 It’s way too late to tank the season. Not that that would happen anyways, especially with a legit shot at making the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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