Matts4313 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) CLICK REVEAL HIDDEN COMMENTS TO SEE THE LIST Quote So, I wrote up a thing a few weeks ago, back when Garrett getting fired was more probable, as opposed to now looking like a sure thing. I wanted to go a little more in depth on a bunch of the names that I am hearing now and go over their records and some pros and cons and stuff. Urban Meyer CV: 17 years as a college head coach (Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, Ohio St) 3 National Championships 7 Conference Championships Pros: Offensive Genius Explosive scheme that will maximize Dak Lots of former players in the league, which could increase FA appeal Connections to form great coaching staff Cons: Kind of a piece of **** Holds no one accountable Might quit "retire for medical reasons" if things don't go well. Never coached in the NFL at any level I have no qualms about Meyer being our coach from an Xs and Os perspective. I just don't think he's the kind of guy that would succeed as an NFL head coach. I see us having a good year, maybe 18 months out of him before the wheels fall off and he runs to USC or Notre Dame or back to commentating. Josh McDaniels CV: Long-time Patriots OC/QB Coach Two years as Broncos HC One year as OC/QB coach for Rams 6x Super Bowl Champion with Pats Pros Did I mention 6 rings? Shown the ability to dynamically shift offense week to week and year to year to meet roster and opponents Older and wiser than previous ventures from Boston Cons Almost ****ed over a lot of people when he bailed on the Colts job a few years back Bill's assistants don't always do well: only one ever has a winning record as a HC McDaniels kinda sucked in both his previous gigs away from the hoodie In Denver, alienated QB to the point where he forced a trade I'm not sure how good he'll be this time without Bill and Brady, I can't trust to him to actually take the job if he shakes on it, and he's shown that he's not the best people person. I'm not on board. Eric Bieniemy CV: Nine years in the league as a RB and special teams guy 15 years as a RB coach in college and NFL Two years OC in college, two in NFL Pros Experienced and respected coach Worked under successful NFL Coaches in Andy Reid and Brad Childress Effective game planner Cons Never called plays at the NFL level Had some personal issues as a coach and player in Colorado Bieniemy is the type of guy whose name is always floated as a HC but doesn't get the gig. He wouldn't be a bad choice, but he'd need a good staff in place to help continue develop the QBs. Jim Harbaugh CV: Former NFL starting QB Former Raiders QB coach 12 years as a college HC Four years as 49ers HC Three NFC Championship games and one Super Bowl appearance Pros Obviously, a successful head coach Made Alex Smith look like a first round pick Made Michigan a consistent ranked team and converted Stanford into a powerhouse Cons Tenure at Michigan has shown inability to develop QBs or adapt scheme to roster Tenure in SF ended after power struggle with strong-willed owner and GM Don't think he wants to leave Michigan without beating Ohio St Harbaugh is a good coach that will coach in the league again, probably well. I just don't think he'd mesh well with Jerry/Stephen/McClay. Kellen Moore CV: Former backup QB One year QB coach One year OC Pros: Brilliant offensive mind Everyone loves him Destined for coaching: everyone has assumed it to be inevitable once he didn't physically develop into an NFL body Cons: Super inexperienced Very Young Might have issues with a roster that he was recently on the practice squad of, and actually on a college team with one player Moore might get a shot as the "next Sean McVay", but McVay had a decade of coaching under his belt before the Rams hired him. Moore was on the practice squad two years ago. I'm not ready to make him our head coach. Chris Petersen CV: 12 years as college position coach 5 years as college OC 14 years as college HC Pros Successful everywhere ranked in the top 16 9 out of 13 full season as HC, with 8 conference titles Kellen Moore's from HC, so chance the offensive staff could be retained Cons Never coached in the NFL at any level Never really coached anywhere with expectations On paper, Petersen is a great idea. Dynamic and inventive head coach with an avenue to keep Moore et al. But, he's never coached anywhere near this level, and a lot of people think he might not want to jump to the NFL Richard Hightower CV: Current 49ers ST coordinator 10 years ST coaching ability One year coaching DBs as well One season as college WR coach One season as offensive quality contol coach Pros: Shanahan coaching tree (Houston, Washington, Cleveland, SF) Has worked as a coach in all three phases One of the hardest workers in the league Cons: Never called plays at any level Still relatively inexperienced, only three years as a coordinator The only person I've seen float his name is KD Drummond, but I was interested enough to look deeper. Hightower had a full ride academic scholarship and walked-on at UT, then forced the coaches to let him play special teams and never looked back. He was able to get a coaching internship in Houston when Kyle Shanahan (his college teammate) was brought in as the WR coach. Ever since, he has worked all over the NFL and college focusing on special teams with occasional position coach work as well. He's an interesting option to consider, who's career kind of resembles John Harbaugh up to this point. Mike McDaniel CV: 9 years as an offensive assistant/position coach in NFL 2 seasons as UFL RB coach 3 years as run game coordinator for SF Pros Scheme and fit guy in SF, building running game with meh O-line and ?? at RB Young, dynamic offensive coach in the current trend Valuable enough to 49ers that they block OC interviews for him Multiple former players call him smartest coach they ever played for Cons Never called plays in the league No coordinator experience at any level Substance abuse/mental health issues that created issues early in career and required in-patient treatment in Atlanta In the realm of "offensive wunderkind" that is the hot trend right now, McDaniel might be the best option. More than anyone else, he's Kyle Shanahan's right hand. His health and alcohol issues are under control right now (almost four years sober) but need to be considered before hiring. Raheem Morris CV: Three seasons as Buccaneers HC 9 years as DB coach 3 years as WR coach 1 year as college DC Pros Very diverse coaching background Experienced in current defensive scheme, which we could likely continue, not requiring personnel changes 20 years of experience but still young at 43 Great at motivating players Cons Wasn't successful as Bucs coach Has been accused of being too much a player's coach Has been up and down as a play caller Morris was promoted from DB coach to DC to HC in Tampa in a matter of a month. He had six years NFL experience and was 33. He probably wasn't ready. He had a raw deal in a ****ty team with a ****ty front office, and he overperformed his second season. That was then. Since then, he has spent another almost decade coaching under guys like Quinn and the Shanahans, and has shown leadership, flexibility, and results. He's ready for a second chance soon. Matt Ebeflus CV: 15 years as college coach, including 8 as DC 9 years as NFL LB coach 2 seasons as passing game coordinator 2 seasons NFL DC Pros Knows the team and the front office Huge role in developing our young LBs Highly respected and effective coach Cons Might be some bad blood in the building Robert Saleh CV: 4 years as college defensive assistant 6 years as NFL assistant/QC coach 3 years as NFL LB coach 3 years NFL DC Pros: Continued scheme fit for personnel Great for culture Well respected Cons: Only one year of elite defense as a position coach/coordinator He's the hot young up and coming defensive hire. I worry a little about his ability to scale up to head coach, but he's gonna be one of those guys that you hire a year early rather than miss out on him. Lincoln Riley CV: 7 years as position coach/offensive assistant 6 years as college OC 3 years as college HC Pros Dynamic, explosive offensive scheme Maximizes the talent of the players he has Great motivator Cons Scheme relies on out-athleting everyone Never coached in a place where defense is a consistent obstacle Riley would owe OU almost $5M if he goes to the NFL this offseason He loves Norman and probably doesn't want to leave as the guy that couldn't get it done in bowl games The hype is there for Riley, and I would like him out of the Big 12 as much as anyone, but I'm really hesitant about how much of his success would translate to the NFL. Greg Roman CV: 7 years as offensive coordinator 15 years as position coach Pros: Great offensive mind Ability to adapt scheme to maximize abilities of young QBs Made Lamar Jackson, Tyrod Taylor, Alex Smith and Kaep look like stars Cons: No obvious ones? Roman seems like a really hot name a lot of teams, especially ones with young QBs, are looking at. At least, their fans are. He'd be great for Dak, and has been around the league long enough that forming a good staff shouldn't be an issue. Mike McCarthy CV: 12.75 years as Packers head coach 5 seasons as an OC 4 seasons as a QB coach 2 seasons as offensive QC coordinator Pros Super Bowl ring as a HC Great track record as a play caller and player developer Cons: Very conservative mentality Seems a little entitled, even for a NFL coach Hard to tell what of his GB success was him and what was Aaron Rodgers Magic So, on the one hand, Mike would be a really safe hire. On the other hand, it would be too safe. I'm not a big fan of the offensive philosophy that he came up under in coaching (got his start coaching Martyball), and he lost the locker room hard in Green Bay. I think he'd be a better fit for a team that is coming up from rock bottom rather than one that needs to make that final leap. Dan Campbell CV: Former TE and Dallas Cowboys Got his first coaching gig as an intern in Miami under Parcells and Sparano 5 years as TE coach in Miami Named interim HC in Miami when they fired Joe Philbin in 2015, went 5-7. Asst HC/TE in New Orleans under Payton since 2016 Pros: Former Dallas player, so he understands the demands on the franchise Mentored by Bill Parcells and Sean Payton, and adopted their attitudes When named interim HC in Miami, didn't just go through the motions. Made more coaching changes, firing both coordinators and really pushed the team Look at the hair on this handsome **** Cons: Never a coordinator or playcaller, more of a CEO type coach Has since cut that beautiful hair I think everyone should watch his introductory press conference when he was named coach in Miami. It really shows his attitude and philosophy about how to manage a team and players. He will need a good pair of coordinators, but he's the kind of coach that can change the tone of a franchise. Mike Leach CV: I'm actually going to list all this out specifically, because its ******* ridiculous. OL coach At Cal Poly (whatever FCS used to be called) LB Coach at College of the Desert, which is a community college in California Unspecified job with the Pori Bears (in goddamn Finland) OC/OL coach at Iowa Wesleyan (which recently moved from NAIA to DIII) OC/OL/WR/QB Coach (in various combinations ) at Valdosta State (DII) OC/QB coach at Kentucky OC/QB coach at Oklahoma HC at Texas Tech Two years doing media out of coaching HC at Washington St Pros: Explosive passing attack. Air Raid, Baby! Gets production out of literally anybody on offense Incredible coaching tree One time he created a fake play script and "lost it" where the opposing coaches could find it Cons: He's ******* nuts Fired at Texas Tech after a player accused him of putting him in the equipment shed when he had a concussion. Did I mention he's ******* nuts? A lot of his former players haven't translated to the NFL, especially at QB I'm not gonna lie, I would let a few losing seasons slide under normal circumstances just to watch this show. Having Mike Leach get national coverage in press conferences would be awesome. As a coach, though, I'm hesitantly curious. His scheme would definitely fit the league more than it would have a decade ago, and he could make interesting use of Dak. Tempo would be a concern, and I'm not sure what kind of staff he could build. David Shaw CV: 7 years as an offensive assistant/QB coach in NFL 5 years as a coordinator under Harbuagh in college 9 years as Stanford HC Pros: Successful at every level he's coached. Coached under pro offensive coaches in Gruden, Billick and Harbaugh Has entrenched Stanford as a powerhouse (except this year) Cons: He's been consistent about wanting to stay at Stanford He's just not an exciting prospect Shaw is a good coach. A really good college coach. He seems content with that. His name floats every year, and he's never once accepted an interview request. He once said that his wife won't allow him to leave Palo Alto. On top of all that, though, he seems like he'd be a lateral move form Garrett. Matt Rhule CV: 10 years as college asst/position coach 4 years as Temple's OC 1 season as assistant OL coach for the Giants 7 seasons as HC at Temple and Baylor Pros: Maximizes talent. Just squeezes everything out of them. Flipped Baylor from 1-11 to 10-1 in two years Has coached basically every position group but secondary at some point in his career Cons: Not an Xs/Os type of hire. More of a motivator/big picture guy Will need strong coordinators Will only come out if he feels the job is perfect Only one year in NFL Most of his coaching career has been below Power 5 level Rhule has gotten some love the last few years. He interviewed with the Colts in 2018, and with the Jets last year. He reportedly walked away from both teams. Its unknown what exactly happened with the Colts interview, but it was reported that the Jets wanted some level of control over his assistants and coordinators. He's an intriguing prospect, and I know other teams are interested (reports indicate he's an option for the Giants). He'd be a solid choice, but I don't know if Jerry would be comfortable giving him the reigns. Kevin Stefanski CV: Vikings Asst/position coach for 12 years Promoted to interim OC last year, got job full time this year Pros: Worked under a very diverse series of coaches Has Vikings offense in the top 8 in yards and points. Made Case Keenum look like a superstar as QB Coach Hopefully has adopted some of the Mike Zimmer attitude Cons: Will have 19 games of playcalling experience at the end of the season, plus playoffs Also had a lot of potential to pick up bad traits from his long series of coaches He's young, but has been around for a long time in Minnesota. I'm a little worried about whether the rocket strapped to his *** will blast him beyond his level of confidence. Fun fact: he was the Cleveland Browns' analytics department's recommendation for their head coach position in the offseason, but they listened to Baker instead and hired Kitchens. John DeFilippo CV: 10 years as a NFL position coach 4 years as a College position coach/oC 3 years as NFL OC Pros: Has made a bunch of QBs look like stars, from the Sanchize to Foles to Minshew Has been on an upward track towards HC seemingly for years Cons Three NFL OC tenures, three different teams, no second seasons Honestly, lasting 13 games in Minnesota, under a coach Jerry likes, is not a good line on the resume John was on the good track. Vikings OC was supposed to be the feather in his cap, the final step before a HC gig. Then, he blew it and got canned. I feel like that probably sets him back a few years. Maybe a few more seasons in Jax will get him back into the discussion. Pete Carmichael Jr CV: Five years as college position coach Seven years as NFL position coach Two years as passing game coach 11 seasons as Saints OC Pros: He's been the third leg in the Brees-Payton team for their entire time in New Orleans Real Xs/Os guy that manages the week to week game plan Great at managing the relationship between strong willed people Cons: Not the most passionate or energetic personality How much of his success is him, and how much is Brees and Payton? The big question is how much of the Saints success can be placed on his shoulders as opposed to the others. He's coached Brees for 17 years. If they are confident he can continue his success, he would be an amazing hire. Feel free to add candidates Stole this from Reddit. Credit to /u/down42road: Edited January 4, 2020 by Matts4313 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Brings up some good points about Petersen. Other names worth a mention... Pete Carmichael Bob Stoops Gary Kubiak Duce Staley Vikings OC whose name I can’t remember DeFlippo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Brings up some good points about Petersen. Other names worth a mention... Pete Carmichael Bob Stoops Gary Kubiak Duce Staley Vikings OC whose name I can’t remember DeFlippo I just asked for write ups on some of those. I left off Kubiak because he has already said health issues wont allow him to be more than an OC/consultant type role. Duce is just a RB coach and cant even steal away the OC job from their terrible OC. The Vikings guy is Stefanski or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Petersen doesn't interest me in the least. I've seen Kitna's name floated around by some... Richard Hightower sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, WizardHawk said: Brings up some good points about Petersen. Other names worth a mention... Pete Carmichael Bob Stoops Gary Kubiak Duce Staley Vikings OC whose name I can’t remember DeFlippo List updated with some more. I also request Sweeny for @The_Slamman, but he said nah because its way to unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2019/11/30/20988448/the-one-cowboys-head-coaching-candidate-nobody-is-talking-about-dan-campbell-jason-garrett I think you can make a great case for Campbell. Well connected and has mentored under a couple of the best. Would think there is at least an outside chance he'd retain Kitna as well, since they've played together in the past. I'm mildly concerned RM would be retained, but not overly. I kinda think this is the end of the line for RM regardless with Dallas. Maybe Campbell brings in his fmr boss, Joe Philbin as OL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 “I am told keep on eye on Lincoln Riley, the promising young coach out of Oklahoma. Here’s one of the reasons why. The Joneses, Jerry and Stephen, already have formed a close relationship with Lincoln Riley going back to the recruitment of walk-on quarterback John Stephen, who is Jerry Jones’ grandson. Lincoln Riley took a home visit with the Joneses … That is the time they realized what a genius this guy was at offensive football and how they became smitten with him.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/thelandryhat.com/2019/12/01/dallas-cowboys-brass-smitten-lincoln-riley/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, canadaluvsdallas said: “I am told keep on eye on Lincoln Riley, the promising young coach out of Oklahoma. Here’s one of the reasons why. The Joneses, Jerry and Stephen, already have formed a close relationship with Lincoln Riley going back to the recruitment of walk-on quarterback John Stephen, who is Jerry Jones’ grandson. Lincoln Riley took a home visit with the Joneses … That is the time they realized what a genius this guy was at offensive football and how they became smitten with him.” I really think Riley makes a lot of sense in every way except that he might not want to take the job. On 11/30/2019 at 5:10 PM, WizardHawk said: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2019/11/30/20988448/the-one-cowboys-head-coaching-candidate-nobody-is-talking-about-dan-campbell-jason-garrett I think you can make a great case for Campbell. Well connected and has mentored under a couple of the best. Would think there is at least an outside chance he'd retain Kitna as well, since they've played together in the past. I'm mildly concerned RM would be retained, but not overly. I kinda think this is the end of the line for RM regardless with Dallas. Maybe Campbell brings in his fmr boss, Joe Philbin as OL coach. I love Dan Campbell. Would not be mad, just think there are some home run options there and Campbell is a triple. On 11/29/2019 at 5:46 PM, D82 said: Petersen doesn't interest me in the least. Will have to agree to disagree on this one. I think he'd be a great choice. Just wonder if something is going on behind the scenes with his departure from UW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: https://www.panthers.com/news/carolina-panthers-part-ways-with-head-coach-ron-rivera Also of note: Norv Turner has been "re-assigned" to "special assistant to the HC". QB coach Scott Turner is now offensive coordinator. Ron in Dallas for our defensive staff next year? Would be an awesome LB coach. Edited December 3, 2019 by Matts4313 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ron in Dallas for our defensive staff next year? Would be an awesome LB coach. Would be great, but think there's a good chance he'll be a head coach somewhere next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Ron in Dallas for our defensive staff next year? Would be an awesome LB coach. He will most likely land as a DC some where if not another HC gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Would be great, but think there's a good chance he'll be a head coach somewhere next year. 1 minute ago, textaz03 said: He will most likely land as a DC some where if not another HC gig Where do you guys think? Im not sure how many openings there will be. Us, Redskins, Falcons, Jags.... who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Where do you guys think? Im not sure how many openings there will be. Us, Redskins, Falcons, Jags.... who else? Rumor up here in the Tri-State region is Pat Shurmur probably gonna be out and I would suspect that Kitchens maybe 1 and done in Cleveland (guy is in way over his head) Schwartz is probably first guy out in Philly as soon as their season is over so that could be a DC opening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Where do you guys think? Im not sure how many openings there will be. Us, Redskins, Falcons, Jags.... who else? Giants maybe? Jets, Browns, Lions? Who knows. Just think Rivera will be a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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