Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Do you all not want Harbaugh? Or do you not think he is a realistic option? Do not want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, eagles suck said: Im confused with all the offensive minded coach suggestions. Did we not have the #1 offense in the league this year. IMO Kellen Moore did a great job for his first year. We were 22 in the league last year. Bringing in a dominant offensive minded coach would put Kellens voice in the background or to another team. I really think we should bring in a defensive minded coach that what hold players accountable. If we go offensive coach I would take Dan Campbell This is an offensive league, and the #1 determinant of our medium-to-long term competitiveness is Dak’s development as a QB. That said, I really like Moore, and guy like Dan Campbell, who could probably work well with Moore, is an intriguing option. But it would be a hard sell for me to grab an HC who is defensive oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Do you all not want Harbaugh? Or do you not think he is a realistic option? That was an odd tenure. Man he had some success early and then it went down the toilet just as quick. I think he could stand up to JJ. But standing up to him could certainly mean not getting along with as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Do you all not want Harbaugh? Or do you not think he is a realistic option? Do not want. His successes at Stanford and S.F. and failures at Michigan tell me that Greg Roman was more responsible for the success than he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Offensive minded coaches have fared much better the last decade or so. Except they don’t. Look at the Super Bowl champions over the last 15 seasons. Nearly all of them were won with defensive coaches or by teams with top defenses that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: Do not want. His successes at Stanford and S.F. and failures at Michigan tell me that Greg Roman was more responsible for the success than he was. His record at Michigan is better than his Stanford record? He is 47- 18 (basically 10-4/yr) with 3 top 15 finishes. People act like he is trash at Michigan. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: His record at Michigan is better than his Stanford record? He is 47- 18 (basically 10-4/yr) with 3 top 15 finishes. People act like he is trash at Michigan. What am I missing? Everyone thinks because he couldn’t beat Ohio he is garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeast23 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, textaz03 said: Everyone thinks because he couldn’t beat Ohio he is garbage Well not entirely. His record against top 15 opponents is terrible also. Bowl games he’s terrible. Obviously his Ohio state record is well documented but Michigan fans know he doesn’t do well against real competitors and bowl games at that. His teams either come out flat often or die out after half time. Adjustments aren’t there either. Edited January 5, 2020 by TheBeast23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: His record at Michigan is better than his Stanford record? He is 47- 18 (basically 10-4/yr) with 3 top 15 finishes. People act like he is trash at Michigan. What am I missing? He really hasn’t beaten top opponents, is 1-4 in bowl games, has choked away many quality wins, and hasn’t beaten Ohio State. Basically, the benchmarks needed to be a proven, successful, college coach haven’t been met. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: Except they don’t. Look at the Super Bowl champions over the last 15 seasons. Nearly all of them were won with defensive coaches or by teams with top defenses that season. I mean, that only works if you are counting Bill as a defensive headcoach. Which Bill has actually acted as the Pats OC and playcaller before, so that is disingenuous. Bill acts as an all 3 phases coach. Outside of that: Quote The reason for the offensive trend is that a lot of new offensive coaches have had success recently. That includes Eagles coach Doug Pederson, Rams coach Sean McVay, Bears coach Matt Nagy, Colts coach Frank Reich and Chargers coach Anthony Lynn. The owners who have seen the success those coaches have had want to emulate it. Quote Seven of the last eight Super Bowl winners possessed top-10 offenses, while multiple teams — including Super Bowl squads like the 2009 Saints, 2011 Giants and 2016 Falcons — have gone on deep playoff runs despite poorly-ranked defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I mean, that only works if you are counting Bill as a defensive headcoach. Which Bill has actually acted as the Pats OC and playcaller before, so that is disingenuous. Bill acts as an all 3 phases coach. Outside of that: It’s not disingenuous. It’s true. That being said, outside of the two Super Bowls that Peyton Manning won (where he played terribly), top QB play was arguably the most critical aspect of the wins. Regardless, we can’t ignore defense and think we’ll have a chance. We must have a coach - regardless of whether he’s an offensive or defensive guy - who believes in defense and understands that it’s impossible to win without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just a feeling and not saying I want him as a coach, I think Jerry is waiting to see if Minny loses and fires Zimmer. I think that's his first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, CAPJ said: Just a feeling and not saying I want him as a coach, I think Jerry is waiting to see if Minny loses and fires Zimmer. I think that's his first choice. Vikes owner already came out saying Zimmer and their GM will be back next year. Came out and said it yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, textaz03 said: Vikes owner already came out saying Zimmer and their GM will be back next year. Came out and said it yesterday I heard that. But if Minny gets blown out and with the possibility of losing Stefanski, they may want to keep their OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: I mean, that only works if you are counting Bill as a defensive headcoach. Which Bill has actually acted as the Pats OC and playcaller before, so that is disingenuous. Bill acts as an all 3 phases coach. Outside of that: Agreed. If it’s Bill, sign new up for a “defensive coach”. Other than that, this is an offensive league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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