champ11 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The target I'm intrigued by for the Nuggets is Jrue Holiday ..... NOP has been committed to him but I wonder if they would consider moving him if the season really goes poorly. Probably not, but he's a guy I've got my eyes on. Something like Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a first or something http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=se4p744 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Kevin love for Gordon Hayward. Cavs need a wing and would gamble on his health. Celtics need a stretch 4 who can rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Kevin love for Gordon Hayward. Cavs need a wing and would gamble on his health. Celtics need a stretch 4 who can rebound. No chance in hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amac Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 hours ago, champ11 said: The target I'm intrigued by for the Nuggets is Jrue Holiday ..... NOP has been committed to him but I wonder if they would consider moving him if the season really goes poorly. Probably not, but he's a guy I've got my eyes on. Something like Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a first or something http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=se4p744 That would be a solid offer. If we continue torpedoing this season seems like a good option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 14 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Kevin love for Gordon Hayward. Cavs need a wing and would gamble on his health. Celtics need a stretch 4 who can rebound. A million no's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 16 hours ago, champ11 said: The target I'm intrigued by for the Nuggets is Jrue Holiday ..... NOP has been committed to him but I wonder if they would consider moving him if the season really goes poorly. Probably not, but he's a guy I've got my eyes on. Something like Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a first or something http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=se4p744 I don't think they'd even consider it for that. Harris is super overpaid, and Jrue is one of the better two way guards in the league on a reasonable deal. He should be able to fetch considerably more thant that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, amac said: That would be a solid offer. If we continue torpedoing this season seems like a good option You think thats solid? Really? Maybe I'm undervaluing Harris, but I think thats an awful deal for Pelicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: I don't think they'd even consider it for that. Harris is super overpaid, and Jrue is one of the better two way guards in the league on a reasonable deal. He should be able to fetch considerably more thant that. Gary Harris is on a solid contract and is an elite defender. His offense hasn't gotten back to the high level it was at pre-injury but he is young and very talented. And then you have two high level prospects. I think it's a fair offer. Jrue isn't really setting the world on fire this year and I don't think you are getting an elite package for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: You think thats solid? Really? Maybe I'm undervaluing Harris, but I think thats an awful deal for Pelicans. Because people overvalue their own guys. It's hard to make good fake trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, amac said: That would be a solid offer. If we continue torpedoing this season seems like a good option why not ask for M Porter jr. Talented wing who might be a very good player that is not even getting a chance. Garry Harris + M Porter and maybe a 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: why not ask for M Porter jr. Talented wing who might be a very good player that is not even getting a chance. Garry Harris + M Porter and maybe a 1st. he'll get his chance in Denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, champ11 said: he'll get his chance in Denver do you want / expect sooner or later? It seems like Later for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, resilient part 2 said: do you want / expect sooner or later? It seems like Later for me. It's a tough situation for the coach because the team has been playing pretty meh and MPJ is undoubtedly going to be a negative player to start despite his special offensive talent. There are talented, proven, rotation level guys in front of him (Torrey Craig started in the playoffs, Juancho started for a FIBA champion, Jerami Grant started for playoff teams etc) ... so I think it's one of those things where chemistry wise you don't really want to throw the talented rookie in there over proven guys on a 54 win team. It's so much different developing guys on a rebuilding team. I think they need to get him in there. But I understand why it's been a slower process. The Nuggets have probably the best player development record in the league and have had a lot of success bringing guys along slowly. But their ceiling gets so much higher if MPJ ends up being good so they need to try to get him out there consistently. Will not be surprised if the FO makes a deal to give Malone less players to try to juggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, champ11 said: It's a tough situation for the coach because the team has been playing pretty meh and MPJ is undoubtedly going to be a negative player to start despite his special offensive talent. There are talented, proven, rotation level guys in front of him (Torrey Craig started in the playoffs, Juancho started for a FIBA champion, Jerami Grant started for playoff teams etc) ... so I think it's one of those things where chemistry wise you don't really want to throw the talented rookie in there over proven guys on a 54 win team. It's so much different developing guys on a rebuilding team. I think they need to get him in there. But I understand why it's been a slower process. The Nuggets have probably the best player development record in the league and have had a lot of success bringing guys along slowly. But their ceiling gets so much higher if MPJ ends up being good so they need to try to get him out there consistently. Will not be surprised if the FO makes a deal to give Malone less players to try to juggle. Similar to how I felt about Boston last year. I feel that too much talent or at least quantity wise can be a bad thing and less can be more. I just hate seeing a young talent like MP sitting. A player needs to play to develop. Experience can not be taught. I agree, a trade may be necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 19 hours ago, champ11 said: The target I'm intrigued by for the Nuggets is Jrue Holiday ..... NOP has been committed to him but I wonder if they would consider moving him if the season really goes poorly. Probably not, but he's a guy I've got my eyes on. Something like Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, Jarred Vanderbilt and a first or something http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=se4p744 What would that mean for Jamal Murray? I thought they paid him all that money to be their PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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