Elky Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Deadpulse said: Right, because Wynn has played the majority of the season... Talent wise Wynn is on par or better than Brown. We'll be good if he gets past his injury woes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 So, moral is.... No, he isn't a zombie and there isn't actually any evidence he's declining at all if you go by mechanics etc. It's just he's got less talent around him than previous years. So wtf is wrong with everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartMyV8 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: So, moral is.... No, he isn't a zombie and there isn't actually any evidence he's declining at all if you go by mechanics etc. It's just he's got less talent around him than previous years. So wtf is wrong with everyone? Inexperience, attrition, and lack of speed IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 How do you plan for life without Gronk? If there were other TEs like Gronk out there it would be no big deal. What TE is/was available for the Patriots that could replace him. The lack of a run game goes a lot farther than no Gronk. Sony Michel was taken out of the game the other night because of what he wasn't doing. There are issues with this team some of it is lack of talent, some lack of experience, lack of continuity, and under preforming. None of those things point to zombie Brady. oh yeah the AB stuff is an issue. You can't have a player that calls out the owner and makes a mockery of your team. The Patriots are not the only team that got rid of him and they aren't the only team not signing him. And from a football stand point there are a lot of teams that could use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, jofos said: How do you plan for life without Gronk? If there were other TEs like Gronk out there it would be no big deal. What TE is/was available for the Patriots that could replace him. The lack of a run game goes a lot farther than no Gronk. Sony Michel was taken out of the game the other night because of what he wasn't doing. There are issues with this team some of it is lack of talent, some lack of experience, lack of continuity, and under preforming. None of those things point to zombie Brady. oh yeah the AB stuff is an issue. You can't have a player that calls out the owner and makes a mockery of your team. The Patriots are not the only team that got rid of him and they aren't the only team not signing him. And from a football stand point there are a lot of teams that could use him. The TE issue should have been addressed in the draft. It was a stacked TE draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: The TE issue should have been addressed in the draft. It was a stacked TE draft. was it? Rnd Pick Tm Player Pos Age G Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 8 DET T.J. Hockenson TE 22 12 32 367 2 Iowa 1 20 DEN Noah Fant TE 21 12 31 379 2 Iowa 2 50 MIN Irv Smith Jr. TE 21 12 28 267 1 Alabama 2 52 CIN Drew Sample TE 23 9 5 30 0 Washington 3 69 JAX Josh Oliver TE 22 4 3 15 0 San Jose St. 3 75 GNB Jace Sternberger TE 23 3 0 0 0 Texas A&M 3 86 HOU Kahale Warring TE 22 San Diego St. 3 96 BUF Dawson Knox TE 22 12 25 307 2 Mississippi 4 121 NYJ Trevon Wesco TE 23 12 1 15 0 West Virginia 4 137 OAK Foster Moreau TE 22 12 18 160 4 LSU 5 141 PIT Zach Gentry TE 22 3 0 0 0 Michigan 6 176 SFO Kaden Smith TE 22 5 12 88 1 Stanford 7 224 DET Isaac Nauta TE 22 2 0 0 0 Georgia 7 228 BUF Tommy Sweeney TE 24 5 3 38 0 Boston Col. 7 231 NOR Aliz� Mack TE 22 Notre Dame 7 254 ARI Caleb Wilson TE 23 UCLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I tell you what most of us, if not ALL of us, should have an egg on our face about "not worried about the OL coz Scar", "Scar will work his magic". We called the lack of talent and the losses on the OL, but even Scar hasn't been able to overcome the injury to Andrews, the lack of Wynn most of the season, the worrying sharp decline of Mason and Cannon. I don't blame him of course, that's a lot of chips down, but we were WRONG about that. The OL is getting better, but still doesn't do enough in the run game and they still get put on skates. Edited December 4, 2019 by Hunter2_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 OK, maybe stacked was over-stating it. It was top heavy, but even so there are four players on that grid that have out produced all out current TEs combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhunt2402 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The bigger issue than not taking a tight end this year was only drafting 2 total since 2012, and none before the 6th round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 22 hours ago, dhunt2402 said: The bigger issue than not taking a tight end this year was only drafting 2 total since 2012, and none before the 6th round. Curran says BB considers it THE most complex position to learn outside of QB. Therefore he doesn't trust rookies (unless theyre generational...) so always looks to veterans. He brought in some that didn't work. I'd have loved to somehow trade down for Hock earlier this year Source: from his podcast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartMyV8 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Hell I'd scoop up Dwayne Allen right now if he were healthy. At least he could block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, IheartMyV8 said: Hell I'd scoop up Dwayne Allen right now if he were healthy. At least he could block. Would actually be a massive signing. He can run block like crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Honestly, receiving tight ends in the mold of Kittle/Gates/Gronk are pretty rare. Unless we find a good one, I'd rather opt for solid blocking tight ends. Edited December 5, 2019 by Elky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartMyV8 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Elky said: Honestly, receiving tight ends in the mold of Kittle/Gates/Gronk are pretty rare. Unless we find a good one, I'd rather opt for solid blocking tight ends. I'd club baby seals in front of PITA for a good blocking TE right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Elky said: Honestly, receiving tight ends in the mold of Kittle/Gates/Gronk are pretty rare. Unless we find a good one, I'd rather opt for solid blocking tight ends. Gronk level sure but guys who can catch a few passes a game if targeted aren’t that rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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