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GDT: Week 14 Bengals @ Browns

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36 minutes ago, INbengalfan said:

This went under the radar, but the browns just cut Chris Smith.  You know Chris, the guy we had for a year as a backup and produced.  You also know Chris after he signed with the browns, as he lost his wife a few weeks after giving birth to their first daughter, when struck by another vehicle along the side of the highway.

 

What a $%$#@#$ classless move by Dorsey.  And Kitchens.  I mean, we stuck by Devon Still in his time of crisis, despite him not being productive, but making sure he had an income and insurance for Leah.    I want to say that Pitt did something similar with Shazier when he was paralyzed.  What runs through a person's mind before doing something like this?  

That’s horrible. Didn’t hear about that. Also very cold move by the Browns 

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3 hours ago, INbengalfan said:

This went under the radar, but the browns just cut Chris Smith.  You know Chris, the guy we had for a year as a backup and produced.  You also know Chris after he signed with the browns, as he lost his wife a few weeks after giving birth to their first daughter, when struck by another vehicle along the side of the highway.

 

What a $%$#@#$ classless move by Dorsey.  And Kitchens.  I mean, we stuck by Devon Still in his time of crisis, despite him not being productive, but making sure he had an income and insurance for Leah.    I want to say that Pitt did something similar with Shazier when he was paralyzed.  What runs through a person's mind before doing something like this?  

Brutal.

Chris is a good dude too.  Hopefully he lands on a roster again next year.

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16 minutes ago, theJ said:

Brutal.

Chris is a good dude too.  Hopefully he lands on a roster again next year.

At least his salary is guaranteed, as he was on the roster week 1

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Hi salary isn't actually guaranteed. He can take his remaining pay for the season as a 1 time benefit for vested vets. But he may not exercise that right this year as it would only be 4 weeks pay.

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9 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

Well, yeah. Safe to assume a 9 year head coach would of found more success than Taylor through 13 games of his first season. Not sure how this is relevant.

Who else is on that list?

If Taylor were more successful, it wouldn't be relevant. But since he probably deserves to be fired, the Bengals ought to see what their options are. They won't get a Parcells to come out of retirement but someone like Rex Ryan, Jay Gruden, Jack del Rio, or Ron Rivera ought to be available. They should hire someone with prior HC experience, not an up and coming OC or DC. 

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1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

If Taylor were more successful, it wouldn't be relevant. But since he probably deserves to be fired, the Bengals ought to see what their options are. They won't get a Parcells to come out of retirement but someone like Rex Ryan, Jay Gruden, Jack del Rio, or Ron Rivera ought to be available. They should hire someone with prior HC experience, not an up and coming OC or DC. 

Yuck, yuck, yuck, and yuck. No thank you.

We knew this wasn’t going to be a one year turnaround. We knew there was going to be a transition period. There have been some bad personnel decisions detrimental to the season that were likely heavily influenced by the front office; specifically Bobby Hart and Preston Brown. We lost our best player for the entirety of the season. And he had to assemble his staff late in the offseason. There was a lot going against him. The roster he inherited wasn’t exactly expected to make the playoffs anyway. It's been a disappointing season, but it’s too early to write him off. I’ve seen enough positives to ride it out for another year before deciding he’s not a good fit. We at least owe him that.

Aside from going 1-11, what specifically don’t you like about him?

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I think it would be silly to can Taylor after 1 year in which he was handed an aging roster that had several key injuries.  

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1 hour ago, THE DUKE said:

I think it would be silly to can Taylor after 1 year in which he was handed an aging roster that had several key injuries.  

I mean if there were some internal issues with management,  sure, move on,  but I feel like lacking that, you give the guy at least 2 seasons.  

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16 minutes ago, Beck Bristow said:

I mean if there were some internal issues with management,  sure, move on,  but I feel like lacking that, you give the guy at least 2 seasons.  

Honestly, unless you can point to several examples of gross incompetence, i'd say you should at least give a coach 3 years.

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36 minutes ago, THE DUKE said:

Honestly, unless you can point to several examples of gross incompetence, i'd say you should at least give a coach 3 years.

Agreed.  he was behind the 8 ball in so many areas (late coaching staff hires, lack of free agency, so far a low producing draft class) that anything less than 3 would seem rash, especially given the parameters any coach has under Brown.

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20 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

Yuck, yuck, yuck, and yuck. No thank you.

We knew this wasn’t going to be a one year turnaround. We knew there was going to be a transition period. There have been some bad personnel decisions detrimental to the season that were likely heavily influenced by the front office; specifically Bobby Hart and Preston Brown. We lost our best player for the entirety of the season. And he had to assemble his staff late in the offseason. There was a lot going against him. The roster he inherited wasn’t exactly expected to make the playoffs anyway. It's been a disappointing season, but it’s too early to write him off. I’ve seen enough positives to ride it out for another year before deciding he’s not a good fit. We at least owe him that.

Aside from going 1-11, what specifically don’t you like about him?

Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?   

Getting his team to victory is a head coach's most basic job and why most are let go. We have mostly the same roster as last year when we were 7-9 with Bobby Hart and Preston Brown. AJ Green doesn't play defense so you can't blame him for ours.  I think Duke Tobin should also be replaced but that doesn't excuse Taylor. We don't owe Taylor anything. He owes us wins. 

 

More specifically, Taylor's O-line schemes suck. Feel free to blame Turner too but Taylor probably could have found a better O-line coach. His DC hiring was a disaster. Nobody seems to be showing much improvement this year over last. 

 

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27 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

AJ Green doesn't play defense so you can't blame him for ours.

You don't think the absence of literally our best player has significantly affected our record this season? I do. We were pretty much doomed from the jump, and we didn't have the talent to make up for it. Of course we were going to struggle. Losing him for the year was a substantial loss to everything we do offensively; rushing and passing. 

43 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

We have mostly the same roster as last year when we were 7-9 with Bobby Hart and Preston Brown.

True, but you also fail to mention that we also had Clint Boling (16 games) and Cordy Glenn (13 games) playing last year. And while they're not world-beaters, they at least solidified the left side of the line and gave us some semblance of a run game; not the revolving door of backups we have going now. You think being forced hand meaningful snaps to John Jerry, Michael Jordan, and Billy Price would have some effect on our record? I do. If you're criteria of judging how well Taylor is doing is based on wins, you could at least assess the personnel changes that he had to endure.

36 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

More specifically, Taylor's O-line schemes suck. Feel free to blame Turner too but Taylor probably could have found a better O-line coach.

In the beginning the personnel was bad, and the scheme wasn't working. There's no denying that. But I'm not sure if you've noticed, we've changed our blocking scheme to more a zone system about a month ago. Things were bad before, but things have improved as of late. There's only so much you can do with the talent we have. The move was late in the year, it could have been made earlier. You can hold Taylor accountable for that. 

47 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

His DC hiring was a disaster. Nobody seems to be showing much improvement this year over last. 

Sorry, but no defensive coordinator was going to come in and fix a historically bad defense overnight. That's just a tad unrealistic. Being bad on the offensive side of the ball puts a ton of weight on the defense. There is only so much they can do when they're on the field for the majority of the game (bottom 5 in TOP). Still, even they've looked good as of late. 

Bottom line, there was enough going against Zac in his first year that I'm willing to give him another shot instead of writing him off. He's young, and he'll hopefully learn from this experience. 

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Bengals signed the worst lineman from Ohio State in the past 5 years. I assume Prince is here just to be worse than Bobby Hart.

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1 hour ago, Beck Bristow said:

Bengals signed the worst lineman from Ohio State in the past 5 years. I assume Prince is here just to be worse than Bobby Hart.

Gotta have a reason for Bobby to next year. 

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