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The Truth:

There's absolutely no way Freddie gets fired especially since John Dorsey assembled a major portion of Freddie's coaching staff and doesn't want to see the likes of Campen, Preifer, and Monken go. There are no candidates from within that could be elevated to HC outside of Steve Wilks for whom the defensive players have lost faith in some.

So, the question becomes assuming that Freddie is retained how can we fix this team?

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My fixes are as follows:

1.) Fire/Replace QB Coach Ryan Lindley with an elite QB trainer/developer that has Offensive Play-calling expertise or upside

2.) Upgrade RT/Replace Chris Hubbard

  • High Quality Starter Impact Via the Draft: 1.) Isaiah Wilson, RT Georgia, A-Distant-2.) Josh Jones, RT Houston, 3.) Prince Tega Wanogho, RT-Convert Auburn , 4.) Terrance Steele, RT TTU
  • High Quality Starter Impact Via Free Agency: 1.) Bryan Bulaga and 2.) Jack Conklin

3.) Upgrade RG/Replace Wyatt Teller and Eric Kush

  • High Quality Starter Impact Options Via the Draft: 1.) Tristan Wirfs, RG-Convert Iowa, 2.) Shane Lemieux, OG Oregon, 3.) Nathan Gilliam, RG Wake Forest, 4.) Yasir Durant, OG-Convert Missouri
  • High Quality Starter Impact Via Free Agency: 1.) Brandon Scherff and A-Distant-2.) Graham Glasgow

4.) Upgrade Starting LT and Re-Sign Greg Robinson as a back-up Swing option

  • High Quality Starter Impact Via Draft: 1.) Andrew Thomas, LT Georgia, 2.) Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama, 3.) Austin Jackson, LT USC, A-Distant-4.) Alex Leatherwood, LT/OG Alabama, A-Distant-5.) Prince Tega Wanogho, LT Auburn
  • High Quality Starter Impact Via Free Agency: 1.) Anthony Castonzo and 2.) No one else

5.) Todd Monken takes over Play-Calling.

6.) Baker, OBJ, Jarvis, and the rest of our offensive playmakers as well as our OC need to rent a big house together, watch film, and mentally/physically rep things until they're in sync with how they see and approach things.

7.) Draft a Reliable Hands Catching-Speed threat WR2 with boundary and slot versatility -- OR-- just draft Michael Pittman, USC in order to stress the defense in ways that creates space and match-up 1-on-1 scenarios. Pittman will fall for idiotic reasons like Michael Thomas did coming out of the draft (this option would shape the offense toward just having a big-time boundary playmaker in Pittman and not necessarily a blistering vertical speed threat per se). 

8.) Acquire upgrades at the Hybrid Safety position

9.) Sign Jack Doyle as the hybrid receiver/blocker TE or Acquire a Receiving-Blocking TE 

10.) Understand there's likely no high quality help coming in the draft or free agency this year at impact edge rusher so get creative with how to improve that position (i.e., trades, etc.)

11.) Understand there is no high quality impact help coming in the draft or free agency this year at the impact defensive tackle position so get creative with how to upgrade that position (i.e., trades, etc) 

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Mock Off-season:

Free Agency:

  1. Brandon Scherff, RG -- Becomes highest paid Guard in football
  2. Jack Doyle, TE
  3. Jimmie Ward, Hybrid-SS 
  4. Vernon Butler, DT
  5. Greg Robinson, LT-Swing OR Halapoulivaati Vaitai, LT-Swing   -- Becomes Back-up Swing Lineman
  6. Damarious Randall, FS -- Issues this year give the team a team-friendly, 1-year deal

Draft:

1.) Jedrick Wills, LT-Convert Alabama // AJ Epenesa, DE Iowa

2.)  Michael Pittman, WR USC // Henry Ruggs III, WR Alabama // DeVonta Smith, WR Alabama // Denzel Mims, WR Baylor // Jalen Raegor, WR TCU

3.) Terrance Steele, RT Texas Tech

3.) Yasir Durant, OG/OT Missouri

4.) Trajan Bandy, NCB/CB Miami

6.) BPA

7.) BPA

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Id like to see forbes at rg, teller aint it. If forbes can play rg, we need 1 olinemen to be very good at rt. 

We need to inprove te, baker needs a great 6'6" target as a security blanket.

Burner wr to take pressure off obj and landry. Id consider moving for desean jackson if he was available, experienced and enoigh speed to still play. 

Resign schobert. 

Get a good returner. Ours suck. 

Cut vernon or restructure. 

Get more pass rushers. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

Id like to see forbes at rg, teller aint it. If forbes can play rg, we need 1 olinemen to be very good at rt. 

We need to inprove te, baker needs a great 6'6" target as a security blanket.

Burner wr to take pressure off obj and landry. Id consider moving for desean jackson if he was available, experienced and enoigh speed to still play. 

Resign schobert. 

Get a good returner. Ours suck. 

Cut vernon or restructure. 

Get more pass rushers. 

 

 

We need to just put Odell as our returner. He’s not being used as a WR anyway. 

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On 11/5/2019 at 11:07 AM, DawgX said:

I think there's a lot of truth to this. Baker is clearly being confused by defensive looks. It also doesn't help that we are constantly getting to the LOS with the clock winding down, which gives him less time to diagnose what the defense is doing.

I'm not crazy about the comparison to RG3. It could turn out to be true, but RG3's rookie year success was largely dependent on the fact that he was a huge threat to run but he had a strong arm that kept defenses honest. I don't recall him making so many accurate tight window throws like Baker made so often last year. We've seen how well Baker can play - he excelled at moving within and out of the pocket last year, threw with pinpoint accuracy, threw a good deep ball, etc. I agree that a lot of his problems this year stem from him being confused by defenses and, like you said, that results in him losing his poise. We've seen many times where he's been high on his throws and he just seems less comfortable in the pocket than he was last year.

Hopefully this offseason we find him a better QB coach and Baker puts a lot of work in the film room. I think he's smart enough to read defenses - he just needs to put in the work.


As for bringing in competition for Baker - who could we bring in? We'll ride or die with Baker next year. If he doesn't improve next year, then we may start looking for his replacement. But he's got about a year and a half before I think we consider doing that.

Hearing a lot of talk ranging from poor OL play to Kitchen's coaching to excuse Mayfield's play this year. 

They're not good arguments. He's got the league's leading rusher. His #2 RB was the league's leading rusher 2 seasons ago. He's got an all pro #1 WR and a pro bowl #2 WR.

Bottom line, he's not playing well enough to QB a team to a winning record, let alone into the playoffs. His recent stretch of 143 w/o a pick was certainly luck if you watched every game. 

Kitchens is a good OC and a terrible HC. The OL struggles to pass pro really well but other QBs have excelled with less.

This year Mayfield is keeping the team from winning more games. Landry & Beckham's skip of the post game press could be a little hint that they've had it with losing games they ought to be winning. For good or bad those two are the main leaders of this team.

Even though it will effectively be a divorce, Dorsey needs to find a guy to push or compete with Baker next year. 

Imo each of these guys could play better than Baker has this year and should be available this off season...

Collin Kaepernick

Andy Dalton

Nate Sudfeld

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Eli Manning

Teddy Bridgewater

Marcus Mariota

Phillip Rivers

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It's possible but I think it's a longshot to say a better coach could fix everything. He'd have to be a really great coach.

If Baker just didn't improve or regressed slightly from his rookie year that would be one thing, but he's greatly regressed and you can't just write that off.

 

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6 minutes ago, BrownLeader said:

Hearing a lot of talk ranging from poor OL play to Kitchen's coaching to excuse Mayfield's play this year. 

They're not good arguments. He's got the league's leading rusher. His #2 RB was the league's leading rusher 2 seasons ago. He's got an all pro #1 WR and a pro bowl #2 WR.

Bottom line, he's not playing well enough to QB a team to a winning record, let alone into the playoffs. His recent stretch of 143 w/o a pick was certainly luck if you watched every game. 

Kitchens is a good OC and a terrible HC. The OL struggles to pass pro really well but other QBs have excelled with less.

This year Mayfield is keeping the team from winning more games. Landry & Beckham's skip of the post game press could be a little hint that they've had it with losing games they ought to be winning. For good or bad those two are the main leaders of this team.

Even though it will effectively be a divorce, Dorsey needs to find a guy to push or compete with Baker next year. 

Imo each of these guys could play better than Baker has this year and should be available this off season...

Collin Kaepernick

Andy Dalton

Nate Sudfeld

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Eli Manning

Teddy Bridgewater

Marcus Mariota

Phillip Rivers

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It's possible but I think it's a longshot to say a better coach could fix everything. He'd have to be a really great coach.

If Baker just didn't improve or regressed slightly from his rookie year that would be one thing, but he's greatly regressed and you can't just write that off.

 

Bad, bad post. One of the worst posts I've ever seen that wasn't blatant trolling or homerism or emotional overreaction lol. That list is RIDICULOUS.

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10 minutes ago, BrownLeader said:

Hearing a lot of talk ranging from poor OL play to Kitchen's coaching to excuse Mayfield's play this year. 

They're not good arguments. He's got the league's leading rusher. His #2 RB was the league's leading rusher 2 seasons ago. He's got an all pro #1 WR and a pro bowl #2 WR.

Bottom line, he's not playing well enough to QB a team to a winning record, let alone into the playoffs. His recent stretch of 143 w/o a pick was certainly luck if you watched every game. 

Kitchens is a good OC and a terrible HC. The OL struggles to pass pro really well but other QBs have excelled with less.

This year Mayfield is keeping the team from winning more games. Landry & Beckham's skip of the post game press could be a little hint that they've had it with losing games they ought to be winning. For good or bad those two are the main leaders of this team.

Even though it will effectively be a divorce, Dorsey needs to find a guy to push or compete with Baker next year. 

Imo each of these guys could play better than Baker has this year and should be available this off season...

Collin Kaepernick- No

Andy Dalton- No

Nate Sudfeld- who

Ryan Fitzpatrick-No

Eli Manning-haha what a joke 

Teddy Bridgewater- Not going anywhere 

Marcus Mariota- Benched forTannehill 🙄

Phillip Rivers- Done

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It's possible but I think it's a longshot to say a better coach could fix everything. He'd have to be a really great coach.

If Baker just didn't improve or regressed slightly from his rookie year that would be one thing, but he's greatly regressed and you can't just write that off.

 

 

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Needs:

-A possible philosophy change at OL Coach

-Total overhaul at the OL, (More physical guys that fit this conference)

-Upgrade DL and the depth behind it (Draft:DE:Alton Robinson, Oluwole Betiku,Johnathan Greenard, DT: Marvin Wilson, Jaylen Twyman, Davon Hamilton, Jashon Cornell), (Free agent: DE, Benson Mayowa,Shaq Lawson DT: Quinten Jefferson, Maliek Collins, Antwaun Woods, Roy Robertson-Harris)

-If a better than Vernon comes available upgrade from him

-We need to identify the best Blocking TE or a guy who can be pretty good at both. (Why did we let Fells go)

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36 minutes ago, BrownLeader said:

Imo each of these guys could play better than Baker has this year and should be available this off season...

Collin Kaepernick

Andy Dalton

Nate Sudfeld

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Eli Manning

Teddy Bridgewater

Marcus Mariota

Phillip Rivers

I wasn't a fan of your opinions in the past. This just validated my thoughts.

 

You think a dude that hasn't played in the NFL in 3 years...and was terrible in his last season...is better than Baker Mayfield?

I'm done.

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