INbengalfan Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Watching Tee Higgins, all I see is Chris henry 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Cam Akers = Kareem Hunt agree/disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, bigben07MVP said: Cam Akers = Kareem Hunt agree/disagree? That’s a good one. Hunt has a little more wiggle, but it’s a great comp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 16 hours ago, INbengalfan said: Watching Tee Higgins, all I see is Chris henry 2.0 Henry was faster. He was legitimately fast and agile. Tee Higgins is as stiff as a board. He’s decently fast running the go routes, but still not a burner like Henry was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I'm changing my Herbert comp to Jake Locker. I just see such a narrow path for his NFL success. A couple more: Patrick Queen: Roquan Smith Yetur Gross-Matos: Jason Pierre Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: I'm changing my Herbert comp to Jake Locker. I just see such a narrow path for his NFL success. A couple more: Patrick Queen: Roquan Smith Yetur Gross-Matos: Jason Pierre Paul Queen can’t touch Roquan’s instincts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Counselor said: Queen can’t touch Roquan’s instincts. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Counselor said: Queen can’t touch Roquan’s instincts. I love Queen's instincts, and I think they're in at least in lockstep with Smith the pro (my comps are prospect to pro, not prospect to prospect). Also, Smith played behind what I considered to be an elite collegiate defensive front at Georgia. I think Queen dealt with a lot more second-level blockers at LSU--which is what life in the NFL will be like. I actually prefer Queen to Smith as a prospect. I think Queen has better take-on ability than Smith, and he's more active in coverage. Although I was much lower than Smith than most because of his weakness taking on blockers--posters swore he wouldn't need to do that because he was so quick and smart. I think I've been proven right in that respect so far. Edited March 3, 2020 by Rich7sena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lark25 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Derek Tuszka - Kyle Emanuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Rich7sena said: I love Queen's instincts, and I think they're in at least in lockstep with Smith the pro (my comps are prospect to pro, not prospect to prospect). Also, Smith played behind what I considered to be an elite collegiate defensive front at Georgia. I think Queen dealt with a lot more second-level blockers at LSU--which is what life in the NFL will be like. I actually prefer Queen to Smith as a prospect. I think Queen has better take-on ability than Smith, and he's more active in coverage. Although I was much lower than Smith than most because of his weakness taking on blockers--posters swore he wouldn't need to do that because he was so quick and smart. I think I've been proven right in that respect so far. Where would you place Queen over all on your big board in this draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 31 minutes ago, Counselor said: Where would you place Queen over all on your big board in this draft? I don't have one of those, but probably top 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullback Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Finished watching film on Yetur Gross-Matos and he is a Chandler Jones clone. Their styles are so similar it's unbelievable. First step explosion you expect from a dominant pass rusher is lacking. It almost looks as if they delay their rush intentionally to get a read on the OL/play. But with their long arms (length in general) and natural flexibility they can get to the QB in a pinch. Watching Chandler Jones getting to the QB is a beautiful masterpiece every single time. It has quite a different vibe than e.g. Von Miller who just flies around the edge. I wouldn't call it a finesse skill, but in fact it's the polar opposite of what most explosive pass rushers do. Gross-Matos has the same question marks Chandler Jones had entering the league. In fact Chandler Jones didn't even have half the production at Syracuse that Gross-Matos had at Penn State. And that's despite being used inside quite some and then lots of edge contain duties considering they mostly faced run-heavy offenses/RPO. Good coaching will be key as has been for Chandler Jones. I have YGM as the 2nd best EDGE prospect. He is much better than Chaisson already. YGM is a very good run defender and reports that he can't contain or hold up are just lazy. He needs a few more moves in his bag and then some work to fulfil the potential of his long arms, but it's not like he is a totally raw prospect as some lazy reports claim. Past season you could see vast improvement from YGM and you can tell he had much more of a plan than the year before. Can't imagine how he would slip out of the top 20. He should go somewhere in the teens. Edit: Went back and compared YGM's numbers to Chandler Jones. They are indeed identical. Vertical (34 - 35), broad jump (both 120), bench (20 - 22). Same height (6'5) and exactly same weight at the combine (266). Arm length as well (34 7/8 - 35 1/8). Hardly ever has a comparison been so smooth. Edited March 4, 2020 by Fullback 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Fullback said: Finished watching film on Yetur Gross-Matos and he is a Chandler Jones clone. Their styles are so similar it's unbelievable. First step explosion you expect from a dominant pass rusher is lacking. It almost looks as if they delay their rush intentionally to get a read on the OL/play. But with their long arms (length in general) and natural flexibility they can get to the QB in a pinch. Watching Chandler Jones getting to the QB is a beautiful masterpiece every single time. It has quite a different vibe than e.g. Von Miller who just flies around the edge. I wouldn't call it a finesse skill, but in fact it's the polar opposite of what most explosive pass rushers do. Gross-Matos has the same question marks Chandler Jones had entering the league. In fact Chandler Jones didn't even have half the production at Syracuse that Gross-Matos had at Penn State. And that's despite being used inside quite some and then lots of edge contain duties considering they mostly faced run-heavy offenses/RPO. Good coaching will be key as has been for Chandler Jones. I have YGM as the 2nd best EDGE prospect. He is much better than Chaisson already. YGM is a very good run defender and reports that he can't contain or hold up are just lazy. He needs a few more moves in his bag and then some work to fulfil the potential of his long arms, but it's not like he is a totally raw prospect as some lazy reports claim. Past season you could see vast improvement from YGM and you can tell he had much more of a plan than the year before. Can't imagine how he would slip out of the top 20. He should go somewhere in the teens. Edit: Went back and compared YGM's numbers to Chandler Jones. They are indeed identical. Vertical (34 - 35), broad jump (both 120), bench (20 - 22). Same height (6'5) and exactly same weight at the combine (266). Arm length as well (34 7/8 - 35 1/8). Hardly ever has a comparison been so smooth. I think you should post more often. Much appreciated analysis here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 2020-03-01 at 8:01 AM, BleedTheClock said: Tee Higgins is as stiff as a board. What do you mean? Higgins is smooth and has some next level body control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said: What do you mean? Higgins is smooth and has some next level body control. Running routes and RAC? Stiff. Body control is fine, I agree. But he’s not sudden at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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