DannyB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elky said: If you don't want to play an away game against someone with a lesser record, win your division. "I don't want to think critically about this topic and change seems scary" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, evilpimp972 said: Punishment for not winning a division is a wild card round while the leader gets the bye....isnt it enough????? Those teams are lucky to be in the playoffs to have an opportunity in the first place. Win your division, which merits a great reward, a home playoff game and maybe a BYE. Don't win your division, hit the road jack. No problem with it. Three teams since the 2002 realignment have won it all as road warriors, something never done before the realignment. So it's possible. Hard, but it's worked out. Edited December 6, 2019 by PapaShogun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Elky said: If you don't want to play an away game against someone with a lesser record, win your division. If you're so much better than the opposing team, you should win anyway. Or, ya know, implement this and make the playoff seeding better and more logically sound. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, wwhickok said: Again I do hear what you guys are saying but the issue is it's just been that way for ever. Now if they were to change it I'm not sure that I would hate it but then you get into a scenario Where let's say a team goes 11 and 5 And wins their division and another team goes 12 and 4 but comes in 2nd place in their division but the 12 and 14 hosts the 11 and 5 team. I'm sorry but 11 and 5 and winning your division should be good enough to get a home game. See we can't just talk about the 7 and 9 teams and act like that's the only scenario in which this would change you have to look at the entire picture and at some point it would become ridiculous First of all, this is how we've always done it, is always a terrible argument against change. Second, no, it hasn't been that way forever. You really don't have to go back that far in the NFL's history to find a time when the top wildcard team did, in fact, get a home game in the first round of the postseason. It wasn't only for division winners. It has only been the way it is since 2002. The 2001 Dolphins and Packers hosted a first round playoff game as wildcards. That's really not that long ago. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny/Patrick Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It’s the way the NFL is setup, we can’t change it and Roger won’t let his darlings miss the playoffs. SEA and SF are a combined 12-2 on the road so I don’t think either are sweating going to Philly or Dallas in what will probably be a 1 PM PST game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: First of all, this is how we've always done it, is always a terrible argument against change. Second, no, it hasn't been that way forever. You really don't have to go back that far in the NFL's history to find a time when the top wildcard team did, in fact, get a home game in the first round of the postseason. It wasn't only for division winners. It has only been the way it is since 2002. The 2001 Dolphins and 49ers hosted a first round playoff game as wildcards. That's really not that long ago. Ummm no dude. The 49ers had to travel to play the Packers as a wild card entry during the 2001 season. St. Louis won the NFC West with a 14-2 record. 49ers were 12-4, and went on the road to play the NFC North 2nd place Packers at 12-4. Edited December 6, 2019 by PapaShogun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: First of all, this is how we've always done it, is always a terrible argument against change. Second, no, it hasn't been that way forever. You really don't have to go back that far in the NFL's history to find a time when the top wildcard team did, in fact, get a home game in the first round of the postseason. It wasn't only for division winners. It has only been the way it is since 2002. The 2001 Dolphins and 49ers hosted a first round playoff game as wildcards. That's really not that long ago. Actually it's almost 20 years ago...just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just now, PapaShogun said: Ummm no dude. The 49ers had to travel to play the Packers as a wild card entry during the 2001 season. Ah, I read the chart wrong. They had losers on the right, not home teams. Same point. The Packers, as a wildcard team, hosted a first round playoff game. Same point, different team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: Ah, I read the chart wrong. They had losers on the right, not home teams. Same point. The Packers, as a wildcard team, hosted a first round playoff game. Same point, different team. I forgot. Packers were second place that year. Bears were 13-3. The league had 3 divisions back then though, and expanded to 3 wild card spots with 31 teams. Edited December 6, 2019 by PapaShogun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just now, wwhickok said: Actually it's almost 20 years ago...just sayin I'm aware. Almost 20 years isn't that long ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: I'm aware. Almost 20 years isn't that long ago. Idk man...20 years ago I ACTUALLY young. Feels like a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, SkippyX said: Because a 2 game lead with 3 to play on a team that only has the ability to beat you once is the definition of meaningless ? Its also a common games loss to a team that Philly beat. This logic of your statement is truly astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) My prediction is this, Dallas loses to LAR, Eagles. Beats Washington. Eagles beat NYG, Washington, Dallas, lose to NYG Edited December 6, 2019 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingin' Sammy Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, PapaShogun said: Those teams are lucky to be in the playoffs to have an opportunity in the first place. Win your division, which merits a great reward, a home playoff game and maybe a BYE. Don't win your division, hit the road jack. No problem with it. Three teams since the 2002 realignment have won it all as road warriors, something never done before the realignment. So it's possible. Hard, but it's worked out. Oh yeah, a 13-3 team that didn't win their division because a rival went 15-1 should feel "blessed" to be able to compete in the playoffs against an 8-8 team on the road... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Jerry is still really mad this morning: Then he hung up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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