Packerraymond Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: Oh, well, I'm in favor of cutting the zero upside steady eddie who has no role on STs in favor of the upside UDFA who does play on STs. It's just STs play, which is something we all don't have access/knowledge of/pay attention to. It seemed surprising to me too until I think about how it's definitely because he has no ST ability and the rest do. I'd rather keep the guy that can get me out of a game if say Rollins and King were to collide in the secondary than a bottom tier ST player. Just as DBs alone go Jones, Evans, Brice, Hawkins are better ST players than Pipkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 what positions do all those guys play on STs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: Yeah I don't get how they grade the value of players either sometimes.. and it also wouldnt shock me if that happened lol I sure won't scream, he was our 5-6th best corner, tells ya how much confidence we have in House, King, Randall, and Rollins He might fit well with the right guys. I just hate the ho hum to a release them screaming if they do anything. Remember that UDFA corner we cut then he had like a double INT game lol. He never did a thing after but I heard about that for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 are we sure gunter is even better than, say, hawkins? I thought I remember reading that Gunter kinda sucked in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I'd rather keep the guy that can get me out of a game if say Rollins and King were to collide in the secondary than a bottom tier ST player. Just as DBs alone go Jones, Evans, Brice, Hawkins are better ST players than Pipkins. Exactly. Gunter can get ya out of one and we have plenty of that body that can play ST. Gmo doesn't play teams... It's a sum of parts thing for me anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I'd rather keep the guy that can get me out of a game if say Rollins and King were to collide in the secondary than a bottom tier ST player. Just as DBs alone go Jones, Evans, Brice, Hawkins are better ST players than Pipkins. I mean, we're in need of multiple injuries in our secondary before we'd get into a situation where LaDarius Gunter would get significant burn on defense. He's probably fifth on the DC, and I think this speaks more about their evaluation of Josh Hawkins and Lenzy Pipkins than it does about Gunter. Gunter is what he is, a corner with physical limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: are we sure gunter is even better than, say, hawkins? I thought I remember reading that Gunter kinda sucked in camp. Josh hasn't played hardly any snaps in the NFL on defense. So we can't know. He sounded better than Gunter in camp. Gunter seems like a guy who's always gonna sound crappy in camp though with that style? Hawkins is hurt ATM right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: I mean, we're in need of multiple injuries in our secondary before we'd get into a situation where LaDarius Gunter would get significant burn on defense. He's probably fifth on the DC, and I think this speaks more about their evaluation of Josh Hawkins and Lenzy Pipkins than it does about Gunter. Gunter is what he is, a corner with physical limitations. I suppose that's true. But when injuries came calling last year there was no shortage of fans upset with our depth. I just can't imagine that Pip would be a better corner playing real snaps than Gunter this year... Even with whatever ST value is perceived. I wonder if the fact House is just a better faster Gunter helps? You have that body for the guys Gunter covers already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think the OL issue is still not settled. Barclay's injury seems to be a mystery. maybe they are looking to bring someone in there. But it would make more sense to move 1 of the OL, not a DL. maybe the Brooks injury is creating a need at OLB and someone from the PS is likely to be moved up. Just spitballing and trying to sort out the why to the supposed 2 cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: I think the OL issue is still not settled. Barclay's injury seems to be a mystery. maybe they are looking to bring someone in there. But it would make more sense to move 1 of the OL, not a DL. maybe the Brooks injury is creating a need at OLB and someone from the PS is likely to be moved up. Just spitballing and trying to sort out the why to the supposed 2 cuts Grecomania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Do any of you guys know if we have a guy on the team we traded for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Do any of you guys know if we have a guy on the team we traded for? http://www.packers.com/team/howbuilt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, CWood21 said: http://www.packers.com/team/howbuilt.html Yeah I just saw some list that had us with one guy we traded for. I was like yeah this is wrong. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Yeah I just saw some list that had us with one guy we traded for. I was like yeah this is wrong. Thanks. Were they including players we traded for via the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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