Matts4313 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Tetsujin said: This is a move you judge in Year 3 thru Year 5. When the team is more built. When Saquon has 1000+ touches on him and is out of his cheap years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split the Sticks Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: When was the last time a position other than QB carried a team to a SB appearance? Why do people continue to do this? well, 2000 ravens for one, but how about the broncos with a peyton manning that was a shell of himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Split the Sticks said: well, 2000 ravens for one, but how about the broncos with a peyton manning that was a shell of himself? I said a position, not a unit bro. When has that happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Who should they have taken? The QBs are the only option to consider if we really are complaining about positional importance. Nelson being a guard faced the same criticism 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Who should they have taken? The QBs are the only option to consider if we really are complaining about positional importance. Nelson being a guard faced the same criticism I think Chubb was in that discussion, fwiw. I criticized the decision at the time but Rosen has been a major disappointment, the Jets still don’t know what they really have in Darnold, and Allen is improving but isn’t living up to a top-10 draft status thus far. Nelson, Ward, or Chubb wouldn’t have been bad picks either but I’m not sure they’re obvious choices over Barkley if we’re isolating that one pick. Full hindsight, I’d say Nelson/Chubb + Chubb in the 2nd, then Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split the Sticks Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Kip Smithers said: I said a position, not a unit bro. When has that happened? Yes you did. My really bad!!! Ok, I'll go with Von Miller and if you reject that, I'm picking up my ball and going home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzd07 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Who should they have taken? The QBs are the only option to consider if we really are complaining about positional importance. Nelson being a guard faced the same criticism Baker and Darnold were both strong QB prospects, worthy of top 3 picks considering positional value. I also would've taken Bradley Chubb over Barkley considering positional value. Ward and Nelson you could argue based off of positional needs. Bottom line is that the running back does not impact an NFL team in the same vein that a quarterback or edge rusher does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 hours ago, BStanRamFan said: Ofcourse he was the wrong pick. You take Darnold over Saquon. Then Miles Sanders in this years draft. Sam Darnold/Miles Sanders>Saquon/Daniel Jones. Is this sarcasm? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: Is this sarcasm? Not in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Not in the slightest. Good gosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: Good gosh Which part is worth goshing over? We saw what Saquon can do when defenses focus on him for a season. I personally don't believe Daniel Jones is a franchise QB. Miles Sanders was just a 2nd round QB in this years draft, you can pick anyone you want. But Darnold is going to be successful in this league for a long time. Pretty sure you can match Saquon's production with 2-3 RB's on a team. No brainer tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, BStanRamFan said: Which part is worth goshing over? We saw what Saquon can do when defenses focus on him for a season. I personally don't believe Daniel Jones is a franchise QB. Miles Sanders was just a 2nd round QB in this years draft, you can pick anyone you want. But Darnold is going to be successful in this league for a long time. Pretty sure you can match Saquon's production with 2-3 RB's on a team. No brainer tbh You mean we saw what happens when Saquon is hurt and when he runs behind a poor line? Miles Sanders? That made me giggle ngl. How much has better than Darnold been better than Jones, if at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: You mean we saw what happens when Saquon is hurt and when he runs behind a poor line? Miles Sanders? That made me giggle ngl. How much has better than Darnold been better than Jones, if at all? Saquon is top 3 most talented RB's in the league. Can't argue that. I just think the drop off between a top 3 RB and a top 25 RB is smaller than Darnold vs. Jones. That's the arguement. I think once Gase is gone and they bring in a few more pieces we will see Darnold flourish. Look how good Tannehill looks not playing under Gase? I'm very high on Darnold is the crux of my argument and RB's production 1-20 isn't very discernible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 hours ago, BStanRamFan said: Which part is worth goshing over? We saw what Saquon can do when defenses focus on him for a season. Teams were focusing on him last year. He's very clearly injured and not himself at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 17 hours ago, Nzd07 said: Baker and Darnold were both strong QB prospects, worthy of top 3 picks considering positional value. I also would've taken Bradley Chubb over Barkley considering positional value. Ward and Nelson you could argue based off of positional needs. Bottom line is that the running back does not impact an NFL team in the same vein that a quarterback or edge rusher does. I know that but Baker and Darnold haven't proven to be worth their spot. At least Saquan is really good at what he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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