NYRaider Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I doubt Oakland would double dip on WRs but I could definitely see us double-dipping on LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastradamus Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, NYRaider said: I doubt Oakland would double dip on WRs but I could definitely see us double-dipping on LB. They almost assuredly will IMO. They're I believe still last in the NFL in WR yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Nastradamus said: They almost assuredly will IMO. They're I believe still last in the NFL in WR yards. I'm a Raiders fan. We need a true #1 WR to take the pressure off of the rest of our group but we already have a solid #2 in Tyrell Williams who we signed to an $11M/yr deal last offseason, a solid young slot WR in Hunter Renfrow, and some decent role-playing WR behind them in Keelan Doss and Zay Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 9:56 PM, bucsfan333 said: I, uh. Don't think Love is a first round QB. But that doesn't really matter. Anything can happen. I don't think the QB position will be addressed in the first round. Jameis is all but guaranteed to return next year. We could take one on day two/three - we'll have a third round comp pick. But I really doubt QB is our pick in the first. Our biggest needs are along both lines. DT Suh is a FA. EDGE JPP is a free agent. EDGE Barrett is a free agent. EDGE Nassib is a FA. OT Dotson should've retired last year. G Cappa is a tough sob. But he might not be a starter. That's four spots we'll likely prioritize over QB. RB Barber is also a FA and he got benched for an underachieving Rojo. So RB could also be a need. Exhibit a of why Winston should be a bridge guy at best is today's game. Also love is a tools guy so u might not have a 1st round grade on him but a lot of scouts like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 hours ago, NYRaider said: I'm a Raiders fan. We need a true #1 WR to take the pressure off of the rest of our group but we already have a solid #2 in Tyrell Williams who we signed to an $11M/yr deal last offseason, a solid young slot WR in Hunter Renfrow, and some decent role-playing WR behind them in Keelan Doss and Zay Jones. While u have a decent point tylan wallace is bpa there and offers a different element that you guys lack and thats a speed wr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: Exhibit a of why Winston should be a bridge guy at best is today's game. Also love is a tools guy so u might not have a 1st round grade on him but a lot of scouts like him. Today's game wasn't even his worst of the season. And he was missing two Pro Bowl WRs, throwing to three guys who made their NFL debuts today. Doesn't mean he won't be back for a second year in BA's offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, LinderFournette said: While u have a decent point tylan wallace is bpa there and offers a different element that you guys lack and thats a speed wr Tyrell Williams is one of the better deep threat WR's in the league and Waller can stretch the field. We have so many holes on defense I can almost guarantee we won't spend two picks on WR. Williams will be the #2 guy and Renfrow will be the slot guy, we just need that true #1 that AB was supposed to be for us. Obviously, we won't find someone as good as prime AB but we need to take a WR early someone like Lamb, Jeudy, or Ruggs III. A 3rd round rookie isn't going to play over Tyrell Williams making $11M per year and Renfrow is pretty much locked in at the slot spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: Today's game wasn't even his worst of the season. And he was missing two Pro Bowl WRs, throwing to three guys who made their NFL debuts today. Doesn't mean he won't be back for a second year in BA's offense. yes like i said he would be okay as a bridge QB. however as a QB i can make the case hes just as bad as Blake Bortles. QB A) 61.4 Completion % 4.7 TD % 3.4 INT% 7.7 Yards Per attempt 6.2 Sack % 50 fumbles QB B) 59.3 Completion % 3.9 td% 2.8 INT% 6.7 Yards Per attempt 6.9 Sack % 46 fumbles as u can see while QB A gets a couple more completions thus leading to more TDs but he also throws more ints and fumbles more which is attributed to his gunslinger mentality. a completion percentage thats barely above 61% with 2 Probowl caliber WRs and 2 Solid Tes is pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 hours ago, NYRaider said: Tyrell Williams is one of the better deep threat WR's in the league and Waller can stretch the field. We have so many holes on defense I can almost guarantee we won't spend two picks on WR. Williams will be the #2 guy and Renfrow will be the slot guy, we just need that true #1 that AB was supposed to be for us. Obviously, we won't find someone as good as prime AB but we need to take a WR early someone like Lamb, Jeudy, or Ruggs III. A 3rd round rookie isn't going to play over Tyrell Williams making $11M per year and Renfrow is pretty much locked in at the slot spot. you also never know with how Mayock picks see Ferrell over Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: yes like i said he would be okay as a bridge QB. however as a QB i can make the case hes just as bad as Blake Bortles. QB A) 61.4 Completion % 4.7 TD % 3.4 INT% 7.7 Yards Per attempt 6.2 Sack % 50 fumbles QB B) 59.3 Completion % 3.9 td% 2.8 INT% 6.7 Yards Per attempt 6.9 Sack % 46 fumbles as u can see while QB A gets a couple more completions thus leading to more TDs but he also throws more ints and fumbles more which is attributed to his gunslinger mentality. a completion percentage thats barely above 61% with 2 Probowl caliber WRs and 2 Solid Tes is pretty bad. He throws deep more than any other QB in the NFL. His completion percentage is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: He throws deep more than any other QB in the NFL. His completion percentage is fine. Thats fake news sir. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/gross-yards-per-passing-attempt he ranks 7th in this stat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: Thats fake news sir. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/gross-yards-per-passing-attempt he ranks 7th in this stat Sorry. He's only seventh. 😂 Yet he completes 60% of his passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, LinderFournette said: you also never know with how Mayock picks see Ferrell over Josh Allen. Ferrell has come on really strong towards the end of the season. Maxx Crosby is almost as productive as Josh Allen as a 4th round pick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Not a fan of the Ravens draft. Seriously doubt they go WR in the first back-to-back years, particularly with how TE-heavy the offense is. I don't hate a CB high, but that's a crowded spot right now depending on who they re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Terrible formatting @LinderFournette. Partially kidding. Quote 27.) Green Bay Packers - Tee Higgins [WR; Clemson] The Packers haven't gone WR in the first round since Javon Walker was their FRP back in 2002. In fact, the earliest they've gone with a WR was when they took Jordy Nelson 36th overall back in 2008. They usually go WRs in the second round, usually the mid-to-late part of that. I'd imagine they'd go DL or OL here instead. Probably could do a small trade back here. Quote 59.) Green Bay Packers - Trey Smith [IOL; Tennessee] If value is here, OT would be a need but I'm not sure how much of a need IOL is unless they're looking for a potential replacement for Corey Linsley. Don't see him as good value here especially given the medical concerns. And this seems like the sweet spot for WRs here. Quote 91.) Green Bay Packers - Jacob Phillips [LB; LSU] The Packers need to improve their ILB play, but I'm not sure Phillips is a huge improvement over what they have. They could go in a number of ways here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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