MikeT14 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: I'm gonna go with this: OLB Shaq Thompson (FA Signing) ------- MLB Cole Holcomb ------- OLB Ryan Anderson DE Montez Sweat ------- DT Jon Allen ------- DT Daron Payne ------- DE Chase Young Ioannidis and Kerrigan don't start but are heavily in the rotation. Shaq got extended. edit: just saw @turtle28 that Edited December 30, 2019 by MikeT14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I’m going to assume the Bama boys will be our backers. Young Ioannidis/Allen Payne Sweat SDH Foster Anderson Kendall Fuller Apke Collins Dunbar This is what I see happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A TRAIN 89 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) However it looks, I certainly hope Ron Rivera can find good MLB. Haven’t had one since London Fletcher. As crazy as this may sound, I don’t hate the idea of having Landon Collins add 15 lbs and play MLB. He does great in the box and is the captain of that D. Would allow us to find safeties who can actually cover. Edited December 30, 2019 by A TRAIN 89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganF89 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I’m going to assume the Bama boys will be our backers. Young Ioannidis/Allen Payne Sweat SDH Foster Anderson Kendall Fuller Apke Collins Dunbar This is what I see happening. if Apke starts next year im done....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 minute ago, LoganF89 said: if Apke starts next year im done....... I hated the pick. Thought he should be cut this year. He’s progressed as a player and you can’t coach his speed. I’d give him a shot and if he sucks then you know we need a safety. We aren’t filling all of these roster holes in one off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, A TRAIN 89 said: However it looks, I certainly hope Ron Rivera can find good MLB. Haven’t had one since London Fletcher. As crazy as this may sound, I don’t hate the idea of having Landon Collins add 15 lbs and play MLB. He does great in the box and is the captain of that D. Would allow us to find safeties who can actually cover. It’s more likely that Collins switches to WLB if they moved him to LB like Rivera and the Panthers did with Shaq Thompson. Either way, I doubt it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeT14 said: Shaq got extended. edit: just saw @turtle28 that Oh I must have missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Does anyone ever think the NFL will ever run a 3-3-5 defense like some teams do in college? Team's like Iowa St and WVU run a 3-3-5. A NT, 1 player the size of a DT/3-4 DE, 1 player the size of a 4-3 DE, 3 LBs and 3 safeties with one of the safeties being the size of a SS. It could be a good D to run, it would confuse blocking schemes. It’d also be nice to have 3 safeties on the field for most downs, we did that back in 2009 or was it 10 some with Chris Horton playing in the box as a safety. For us currently it would look like this: DE - Allen/Sweat/Kerrigan NT- Payne/Settle DT- Ioannidis/Hester? SLB- Holcomb/Anderson MLB- Foster or Bostic? WLB- SDH/JHC SS- Collins (playing in the box most snaps) SS- Nicholson or Everett FS- Apke Edited January 11, 2020 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 This is one way to do it (Starter, backup) LDE - (Kerrigan, Sweat) DT - Allen, Ioannidas NT - Payne, Settle RDE - Chase Young, TBD (****) SAM - SDH, TBD (*****) MIKE - Holcomb, TBD (*****) WILL - Rueben Foster, JHC LCB - Norman, Moreland, Moreau (**) Nickel - Moreland, Johnson, TBD (**) RCB - Dunbar, TBD (***) SS- Collins, Everett FS - Nicholson, TBD (*) Obviously we need to get some LBs in here quickly. And Kerrigan is only starting for now. Eventually he will give way to Sweat over the season or in 2021. And this does not mean we don't try to upgrade at these positions in FA or the draft. (*) Apke, and Reaves can play FS some. So I guess we can possibly put them as backups for now (**) I'd have Moreland back up Norman. He is a more natural fit on the outside. But I do have him as the starting nickel DB if Moreau is the 2nd string outside CB (***) Not sure who to put here as the backup (****) Either draft someone or see what Anderson can do since he's under contract (*****) Biggest holes in the defense is we switch. Need to get some 4-3 Sam and Mike LBs in quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Thaiphoon said: This is one way to do it (Starter, backup) LDE - (Kerrigan, Sweat) DT - Allen, Ioannidas NT - Payne, Settle RDE - Chase Young, TBD (****) SAM - SDH, TBD (*****) MIKE - Holcomb, TBD (*****) WILL - Rueben Foster, JHC LCB - Norman, Moreland, Moreau (**) Nickel - Moreland, Johnson, TBD (**) RCB - Dunbar, TBD (***) SS- Collins, Everett FS - Nicholson, TBD (*) Obviously we need to get some LBs in here quickly. And Kerrigan is only starting for now. Eventually he will give way to Sweat over the season or in 2021. (*) Apke, and Reaves can play FS some. So I guess we can possibly put them as backups for now (**) I'd have Moreland back up Norman. He is a more natural fit on the outside. But I do have him as the starting nickel DB if Moreau is the 2nd string outside CB (***) Not sure who to put here as the backup (****) Either draft someone or see what Anderson can do since he's under contract (*****) Biggest holes in the defense is we switch. Need to get some 4-3 Sam and Mike LBs in quickly. I'm pretty sure Apke is a FS, there's an outside chance he's our starting FS if we don't sign a better option. Aren’t SDH & JHC WLB’S? Agreed w/ needing a SAM, I think Foster or Holcomb could do it, but it wouldn’t be ideal - we also can’t rely that Foster will be back to near 100% in September . Also, Ryan Anderson would be a SAM. I think we need a starting SAM though, I don’t want Anderson starting in his first year as a 4-3 OLB - that’d probably be a disaster when he has to drop in coverage. As you pointed out, Foster definitely fits better at MLB or WLB than a SLB. SDH & JHC are definitely WLB’s. SDH (6’ 236 LBs) JHC (6’4, 245 LBs). Bottomline we need to find starters at every position if we want a great LB corps but we could get by with just finding a starting SAM in FA and could have a very young but possibly good LB corps w/: SLB: Foster or Free agent, Anderson MLB: Foster or Holcomb WLB: SDH, JHC Edited January 12, 2020 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Im probably most excited for Reuben Foster and Cole Holcomb to play in this defense. Speedy thumpers patrolling the middle of the defense. I’d like to see us get Kendall Fuller back as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) On 12/30/2019 at 2:00 PM, A TRAIN 89 said: However it looks, I certainly hope Ron Rivera can find good MLB. Haven’t had one since London Fletcher. As crazy as this may sound, I don’t hate the idea of having Landon Collins add 15 lbs and play MLB. He does great in the box and is the captain of that D. Would allow us to find safeties who can actually cover. I hear you, but it’d be much easier to just move him to WLB, he wouldn’t have to put on weight to play there. Apparently finding great coverage safeties is the hardest thing to do in the world bc we’ve only done it twice this century!!... (Clark and Taylor) Edited January 12, 2020 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, turtle28 said: I'm pretty sure Apke is a FS, there's an outside chance he's our starting FS if we don't sign a better option. Aren’t SDH & JHC WLB’S? Yeah, I put Apke there as FS backup but if he can somehow turn it all on in the new defense, he has the speed to do it. As for SDH and JHC, I dunno. I kinda don't know where to put them and I think I'd like to try SDH as SAM to see if he could cut it. I really want to see Holcomb and another draft pick/FA as the Mike, with Rueben Foster in the Will. I think we need a SAM as well as a MIKE backer in this FA/draft. Quote Agreed w/ needing a SAM, I think Foster or Holcomb could do it, but it wouldn’t be ideal - we also can’t rely that Foster will be back to near 100% in September . Also, Ryan Anderson would be a SAM. I think we need a starting SAM though, I don’t want Anderson starting in his first year as a 4-3 OLB - that’d probably be a disaster when he has to drop in coverage. See, here's what's interesting. I don't know what to do with Anderson. Like you said, I don't want to trust him at SAM in the 4-3. But was curious as to what we could do with him as Young's backup at RDE. It's an intriguing thought experiment though. Quote Bottomline we need to find starters at every position if we want a great LB corps but we could get by with just finding a starting SAM in FA and could have a very young but possibly good LB corps w/: SLB: Foster or Free agent, Anderson MLB: Foster or Holcomb WLB: SDH, JHC Yeah, I mean our most obvious need is a SAM in the 4-3. I just think we could try SDH over there just in case. I'm still intrigued by Foster and will go round and round about where to best put him. Just don't know because I've seen nothing from him yet (for good reason - he was injured) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Cory Littleton plays SAM!😀😀😀 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Great Signing. Edited January 12, 2020 by ARTMONK HOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, ARTMONK HOF said: Cory Littleton plays SAM!😀😀😀 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Great Signing. If we can sign him for about $12m per year, I'd be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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