ravishingone Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, indifference said: Howard is a mismatch just hasnt put it together yet. Brate is a good weapon here if Howard isn’t a selling point. Our OL gave Winston 2.77, last year Brady had 2.75. And if Arians can get a new RT in the draft we’re in great shape. So basically both teams have the same oline and Brady showed signs of decline at 42. Granted, can t argue the WR position. I don t know how far everyone goes back as fans. Howard reminds me so much on the field as Ricky Dudley and Jeremy Stevens. All first rd picks you would see one really good play a game. I would even convince myself, these guys just have to be unleashed. It never happened for those guys. I don t put Howard in that category as a selling point to attract a QB. I appreciate the Brate story, but how valuable is a TE making 6 million whose trade value might be a day 3 pick. If I had to rank the teams Brady would be interested, the Bucs at best would be 3. And I m not sure Vegas wouldn t interest him more. Better chance the Bucs get Tannehill then Brady, IMO. Edited February 27, 2020 by ravishingone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, ravishingone said: The new pending CBA is also reason we're holding out with Winston. As it'll affect what we can do. For example, the proposed new CBA would take away ability to use both transition tag and franchise tag in same calendar offseason. We're actually one of the few teams that are contemplating this with Barrett and Winston... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, kgarrett12486 said: We're actually one of the few teams that are contemplating this with Barrett and Winston... We're in a unique position where we actually have a reason to do so. Doesn't mean we're considering it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 well, if they do the impossible and sign Brady, guaranteed the Bucs will be nationally relevant and get 5 prime time games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 40 minutes ago, ravishingone said: well, if they do the impossible and sign Brady, guaranteed the Bucs will be nationally relevant and get 5 prime time games. Could be part of the reason we're pursuing him. I figure the Glazers wanna put butts in seats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Could be part of the reason we're pursuing him. I figure the Glazers wanna put butts in seats. that s part of it, but at least I can rationalize trying to sign an aging GOAT over Rivers. Going to be a crazy couple of weeks. Hope they don t get left at the alter again whatever the plan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 If Jerry Jones is stupid enough to let Dak Prescott walk does he 1) fit our system and 2) worth giving a big contract to? Do you think the Bucs would make a move to go after him over Jameis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lil' Shorty said: If Jerry Jones is stupid enough to let Dak Prescott walk does he 1) fit our system and 2) worth giving a big contract to? Do you think the Bucs would make a move to go after him over Jameis? I have no interest in giving Dak a contract north of Goff and Wentz. So for me no interest. I have even no interest in trading for Carr. Mark Cook tweeted a couple of days ago it would be Brady or Jameis at QB. Edited February 28, 2020 by ravishingone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lil' Shorty said: If Jerry Jones is stupid enough to let Dak Prescott walk does he 1) fit our system and 2) worth giving a big contract to? Do you think the Bucs would make a move to go after him over Jameis? Not for $40M+ fully guaranteed over three or four years. Which is probably what he'd get on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Winston played through a torn meniscus last season and had scope surgery recently to repair... That on top of our Oline, yikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The final decision either way will have a feeling of relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I'm giving it about a 15% chance we're able to retain Winston, Barrett, JPP and Suh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lil' Shorty Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 hours ago, kgarrett12486 said: I'm giving it about a 15% chance we're able to retain Winston, Barrett, JPP and Suh... If we an keep those 4 that would be a big win. Then go to the draft and get a top OT and RB then some depth/developmental guys for the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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