ChazStandard Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Honest question: Can they hire Chad O’Shea immediately, or do they have to wait til the official off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 2:01 PM, IheartMyV8 said: If they did somehow manage to a). go into KC/Bal and walk out with wins and b). win the big game... one HELL of a mic drop walk-off home run. I don't see it, and there doesn't seem to be any of that "Believe" or "We're still here" mindset being broadcast anywhere. 19 hours ago, Split the Sticks said: I don't think even Tom Brady thinks they can do it. Never seen the guy look so miserable This has what's been most telling for me, how the entire team from Brady all the way to Belichick just looks disinterested and mentally drained. Nobody on this Pats team thinks they can win it all this year, and it just feels like everyone is just coasting, waiting for the season to end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 01/01/2020 at 1:22 AM, Split the Sticks said: I don't think even Tom Brady thinks they can do it. Never seen the guy look so miserable Strange because he's beaten better teams with less to work with. Saints 2013 springs to mind. Maybe he thinks it's him....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Strange because he's beaten better teams with less to work with. Saints 2013 springs to mind. Maybe he thinks it's him....? I think Brady, for the first time, is experiencing a lack of faith in the FO. He campaigned hard for AB, he let him stay at his house, he did private work-outs to get him up to speed. He wanted him here, and I think he took AB getting cut a little personally. More than that, they didn't address the TE position despite losing Gronk, they let Gordon and DT go. I think Brady's tired, and is experiencing that feeling of "this team doesn't want to win as much as I do" for the first time in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, ChazStandard said: I think Brady, for the first time, is experiencing a lack of faith in the FO. He campaigned hard for AB, he let him stay at his house, he did private work-outs to get him up to speed. He wanted him here, and I think he took AB getting cut a little personally. More than that, they didn't address the TE position despite losing Gronk, they let Gordon and DT go. I think Brady's tired, and is experiencing that feeling of "this team doesn't want to win as much as I do" for the first time in his career. But TB12 of all people should understand the importance of maintaining a brand even at the Patriots expense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 3:32 PM, Pats#1 said: This has what's been most telling for me, how the entire team from Brady all the way to Belichick just looks disinterested and mentally drained. Nobody on this Pats team thinks they can win it all this year, and it just feels like everyone is just coasting, waiting for the season to end. I've never seen Belichick and Brady celebrate like they did in the KC game (more so BB), so I don't agree with the disinterested comment at all. Frustrated? Sure, I think you can definitely see that with Brady. Part of me feels like Belichick loves grinding the gross, low score, ST/Defense laden games lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, ChazStandard said: I think Brady, for the first time, is experiencing a lack of faith in the FO. He campaigned hard for AB, he let him stay at his house, he did private work-outs to get him up to speed. He wanted him here, and I think he took AB getting cut a little personally. More than that, they didn't address the TE position despite losing Gronk, they let Gordon and DT go. I think Brady's tired, and is experiencing that feeling of "this team doesn't want to win as much as I do" for the first time in his career. Horrible thought, isn't it. We could be on last orders here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, 1ForTheThumb said: I've never seen Belichick and Brady celebrate like they did in the KC game (more so BB), so I don't agree with the disinterested comment at all. Frustrated? Sure, I think you can definitely see that with Brady. Part of me feels like Belichick loves grinding the gross, low score, ST/Defense laden games lol I just think their body language shows a beaten group of guys....I don’t see the typical resilience or grit that I’m used to seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The more I think about this game, specifically the match-ups when we're on D, the more hope leaves me. We have struggled all year with bringing big backs down, and stopping smash-mouth football in general, and this team coming here is probably the best at it. Henry is a massive problem for us, and it's no wonder all our players are banging on about tackling this week. No sht, tackling needs to be on point. Their size all across the board is a problem for us. We don't have the hats to match-up in terms of size - we are built to man-up and frustrate passing games. We'll be using heavy doses of Hightower, Collins, KVN, Butler, Guy and Shelton against heavy, but TEN can easily then spread their formation, and we'll be stuck asking guys like Chung to cover YAC kings like Jonnu Smith (2nd amongst TEs in YAC) and if they go to Henry, it will be up to our big but mostly slow LBs to take on Henry, who is obviously also rapid. Not a good look for us. Collins is absolutely key for us, because he is a big boy but also athletic. Will be worked. It's like what we used to do to teams when we had Gronk - come out in a heavy formation to get their big players on the field, then open it up and put Gronk and RBs out wide Gilmore's got to go on Brown, because Brown is....you guessed it....a YAC king (1ST amongst WR YAC) and Steph is really good at tracking a receiver if he's caught it. TEN by 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Bali Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Easy win for the Titans. Pats offense is absolutely all time trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Pats by 16. or 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 IF we win this, I'm going to be respectful to our opponent fans' as always, but I may just be a total prck on gen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL Network Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: The more I think about this game, specifically the match-ups when we're on D, the more hope leaves me. We have struggled all year with bringing big backs down, and stopping smash-mouth football in general, and this team coming here is probably the best at it. Henry is a massive problem for us, and it's no wonder all our players are banging on about tackling this week. No sht, tackling needs to be on point. Their size all across the board is a problem for us. We don't have the hats to match-up in terms of size - we are built to man-up and frustrate passing games. We'll be using heavy doses of Hightower, Collins, KVN, Butler, Guy and Shelton against heavy, but TEN can easily then spread their formation, and we'll be stuck asking guys like Chung to cover YAC kings like Jonnu Smith (2nd amongst TEs in YAC) and if they go to Henry, it will be up to our big but mostly slow LBs to take on Henry, who is obviously also rapid. Not a good look for us. Collins is absolutely key for us, because he is a big boy but also athletic. Will be worked. It's like what we used to do to teams when we had Gronk - come out in a heavy formation to get their big players on the field, then open it up and put Gronk and RBs out wide Gilmore's got to go on Brown, because Brown is....you guessed it....a YAC king (1ST amongst WR YAC) and Steph is really good at tracking a receiver if he's caught it. TEN by 7 If the Patriots had a pass rush like they did when they were 9-0 then the defense would be able to win the game but when your leading sacker only has 7 (Collins) you have a problem. Guys like Winovich has been stuck on 5.5 sacks for the last 2 months and hence QB's are picking apart the secondary. The run defense has gotten a bit better in terms of YPG but now they are worse against the pass b/c they can't get to the QB and when they do they just wiff at him e.g. Fitz. Unless we see some defensive or ST scores I think the Titans have an excellent shot. Also it's all moot to me b/c in order to reach the SB the #1 seed was required and they couldn't even get a bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NFL Network said: If the Patriots had a pass rush like they did when they were 9-0 then the defense would be able to win the game but when your leading sacker only has 7 (Collins) you have a problem. Guys like Winovich has been stuck on 5.5 sacks for the last 2 months and hence QB's are picking apart the secondary. The run defense has gotten a bit better in terms of YPG but now they are worse against the pass b/c they can't get to the QB and when they do they just wiff at him e.g. Fitz. Unless we see some defensive or ST scores I think the Titans have an excellent shot. Also it's all moot to me b/c in order to reach the SB the #1 seed was required and they couldn't even get a bye. This may be glass half full, but I have a theory on this. Offenses have clued in on when we send the house (3rd down basically), and so have a quicker internal clock - but it's still led to a lot of incompletions. We have forced our opponents to punt the most in the league. It seems we've traded sacks for incompletions. Like I said...that could be BS half full theory. As for the bold. Pretty much. On to next year. Edited January 3, 2020 by Hunter2_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Yeah what happened to the pass rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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