NJerseypaint Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Stacked the team with combustible personalities too. No team has a good locker room when they go into a season expecting playoffs and end up near the bottom of the NFL. If they were winning, personalities wouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: Best part is the mental gymnastics Browns fans have to jump through to appear to support their teams' decisions every single offseason lol. Literally the last few weeks Browns fans have been pounding the Dorsey table in regards to how incompetent Freddie was. "John gave Freddie a team with enough talent that with even an AVERAGE coach should have won 10 games. Freddie is garbage". Now that he's been fired, 80% of that forum is celebrating, im sure. Just like they were telling skeptics of the Freddie hire last offseason that we were wrong and of course it was a great hire because of his relationship with Baker. It has to be truly, truly exhausting keeping up with the rotating spread sheets of who to blame, pump up, etc. every offseason. The one thing we can all agree on is that we can't stand the Ravens (although, I do believe that despite the move, Art Modell should be in the HOF because of his actions at turning TV into such a cash cow for the league.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Girl Squad Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Dorsey was always a short sighted move. He's the equivalent of the coordinator who sucked as a HC. He's a good talent evaluator but sucks at every other part of the job. Egomanic and power hungry who alienates everyone else in the organization. Hired Kitchens mostly because he could maintain his power in the organization. Poor cap management and with trades (so many assets and cap space that these problems haven't hit yet). Part of his "talent prowess" is literally ignoring character issues, which gets passed along to the coaching staff. His draft record will always make him look like a better GM than he is, he needs to pull a Jeff Ireland and just accept a scouting department lead role or consulting gig like McCloughan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, DawgX said: Ha! If you think the Mariners are more incompetent than us... Mariners haven't made the playoffs in 18 years and we already had a season like you guys just did in I think 2015 or something. We also wasted the entire career of Felix Hernandez just like you guys did with Joe Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Should we just make the mcdaniels HC thread now? its a lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Bucketheadsdad said: The one thing we can all agree on is that we can't stand the Ravens (although, I do believe that despite the move, Art Modell should be in the HOF because of his actions at turning TV into such a cash cow for the league.) Should probably be in from that perspective for sure, but i think so many people are still so bitter about the move that i just can't see him getting in until like 2090 lol. Honestly the best thing for Art's chances are probably for the Browns to win a super bowl so people in Cleveland with HOF voting sway stop demonizing him and can move on with their lives after a 3 year absence of football. So maybe somewhere Art is actually rooting for you guys, haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, Ray Reed said: Should probably be in from that perspective for sure, but i think so many people are still so bitter about the move that i just can't see him getting in until like 2090 lol. Honestly the best thing for Art's chances are probably for the Browns to win a super bowl so people in Cleveland with HOF voting sway stop demonizing him and can move on with their lives after a 3 year absence of football. So maybe somewhere Art is actually rooting for you guys, haha. Hadn't thought of it from that vantage point before. You might be right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Firing Dorsey was stupid imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Dorsey was always a short sighted move. He's the equivalent of the coordinator who sucked as a HC. He's a good talent evaluator but sucks at every other part of the job. Egomanic and power hungry who alienates everyone else in the organization. Hired Kitchens mostly because he could maintain his power in the organization. Poor cap management and with trades (so many assets and cap space that these problems haven't hit yet). Part of his "talent prowess" is literally ignoring character issues, which gets passed along to the coaching staff. His draft record will always make him look like a better GM than he is, he needs to pull a Jeff Ireland and just accept a scouting department lead role or consulting gig like McCloughan. 2019: 32mil 2020: 51.7mil 2021: 134mil 2022: 285mil Let me know when this "poor cap management" and "cap space problems" kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 So should we pin this thread so that over the next few years we don't continue to clutter the NFL News page? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said: So should we pin this thread so that over the next few years we don't continue to clutter the NFL News page? Bills fans are the (2nd) worst (Steelers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeT14 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, DawgX said: It's cute that you think you guys are anywhere near as incompetent of a franchise as we are. You may win, but we put up a hell of a fight, I promise you that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, pnies20 said: Bills fans are the (2nd) worst (Steelers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, pnies20 said: Should we just make the mcdaniels HC thread now? its a lock With McDaniels nothing is a lock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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