D82 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Fans are brainwashed. They want the idea of analytics, they are going to hate what they tell you. Because it goes against your core beliefs of football. Because the game has changed. It isn’t what it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, D82 said: 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Fans are brainwashed. They want the idea of analytics, they are going to hate what they tell you. Because it goes against your core beliefs of football. Because the game has changed. It isn’t what it used to be. Of course. This forum is just so strange: "We need to catch up to modern times! We need analytics! We need to be innovative" That same fan in another thread: "Look, all these charts are stupid. What I learned 20 years ago is the truth. Anything you say is a lie" And then they tag me? GTFO hypocrites. (not you daboys, love you boo) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Now Jimmy G is clearly the MVP of this game. He just threw pass #7. I mean, there’s NO WAY that Mostert could possibly have been so successful without Jimmy’s 71.4% completion percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, plan9misfit said: Now Jimmy G is clearly the MVP of this game. He just threw pass #7. I mean, there’s NO WAY that Mostert could possibly have been so successful without Jimmy’s 71.4% completion percentage. That efficient pass to Kittle was amazing Nothing to do with GB thinking run there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Correct. The threat of a RB, plus what the RB does after (pass route, pass blocking) are what matter. But its been proven time and time again that who the RB is doesnt matter. Just like this myth that Zeke faces loaded boxes. *ANOTHER LIE* I dont have the numbers off the top of my head, but he faces a loaded box like 20-25% of the time. Which is very middle tier. Almost all RBs are somewhere near that range. Because its situational, OBVI RUNDOWNS get loaded boxes (short yardage, goal line, etc). Announcers during the vikes game: Zeke facing a loaded box every snap! Analytics after the vike game: Zeke faced a loaded box on 4 total snaps! Fans are brainwashed. They want the idea of analytics, they are going to hate what they tell you. Because it goes against your core beliefs of football. Just doesn't seem to be quite the anomaly when a run game dominates a team. I see it all the time. Derrick Henry, the 49ers, the Ravens, even the Packers relied on the run game. The Chiefs seem like the anomaly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TheGame316 said: That efficient pass to Kittle was amazing Nothing to do with GB thinking run there.... There’s clearly no way to know that until after Matts has the chance to review the All-22. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, plan9misfit said: There’s clearly no way to know that until after Matts has the chance to review the All-22. I hear he watches it every week, for every team, every season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: O (not you daboys, love you boo) Xoxo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, DaBoys said: Just doesn't seem to be quite the anomaly when a run game dominates a team. I see it all the time. Derrick Henry, the 49ers, the Ravens, even the Packers relied on the run game. The Chiefs seem like the anomaly Quote Rk Player Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A▼ Sk% 4QC GWD 1 Ryan Tannehill TEN 31 QB 12 10 7-3-0 201 286 70.3 2742 22 7.7 6 2.1 126 91 9.6 10.2 13.6 228.5 117.5 65.4 31 212 7.98 8.52 9.8 2 3 2 Patrick Mahomes* KAN 24 QB 14 14 11-3-0 319 484 65.9 4031 26 5.4 5 1.0 176 83 8.3 8.9 12.6 287.9 105.3 78.0 17 127 7.79 8.38 3.4 1 1 3 Drew Brees* NOR 40 QB 11 11 8-3-0 281 378 74.3 2979 27 7.1 4 1.1 159 61 7.9 8.8 10.6 270.8 116.3 74.2 12 89 7.41 8.33 3.1 1 2 4 Lamar Jackson*+ BAL 22 QB 15 15 13-2-0 265 401 66.1 3127 36 9.0 6 1.5 161 83 7.8 8.9 11.8 208.5 113.3 81.1 23 106 7.13 8.19 5.4 1 2 5 Matthew Stafford DET 31 QB 8 8 3-4-1 187 291 64.3 2499 19 6.5 5 1.7 117 66 8.6 9.1 13.4 312.4 106.0 73.1 18 137 7.64 8.15 5.8 2 1 6 Dak Prescott DAL 26 QB 16 16 8-8-0 388 596 65.1 4902 30 5.0 11 1.8 229 62 8.2 8.4 12.6 306.4 99.7 71.2 23 151 7.68 7.84 3.7 7 Kirk Cousins MIN 31 QB 15 15 10-5-0 307 444 69.1 3603 26 5.9 6 1.4 165 66 8.1 8.7 11.7 240.2 107.4 59.8 28 206 7.20 7.73 5.9 1 1 8 Russell Wilson* SEA 31 QB 16 16 11-5-0 341 516 66.1 4110 31 6.0 5 1.0 190 60 8.0 8.7 12.1 256.9 106.3 69.4 48 319 6.72 7.42 8.5 4 5 9 Derek Carr OAK 28 QB 16 16 7-9-0 361 513 70.4 4054 21 4.1 8 1.6 191 75 7.9 8.0 11.2 253.4 100.8 63.7 29 184 7.14 7.25 5.4 2 3 10 Jimmy Garoppolo SFO 28 QB 16 16 13-3-0 329 476 69.1 3978 27 5.7 13 2.7 193 75 8.4 8.3 12.1 248.6 102.0 60.2 36 237 7.31 7.22 7.0 4 4 11 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 36 QB 16 16 13-3-0 353 569 62.0 4002 26 4.6 4 0.7 189 74 7.0 7.6 11.3 250.1 95.4 53.5 36 284 6.15 6.71 6.0 2 3 12 Deshaun Watson* HOU 24 QB 15 15 10-5-0 333 495 67.3 3852 26 5.3 12 2.4 191 54 7.8 7.7 11.6 256.8 98.0 69.5 44 257 6.67 6.63 8.2 3 5 Top 12 most efficient passers are 9/12 playoff QBs. Of those: Stafford missed 8 games. Dak missed the playoffs by a fieldgoal against the Jets. For rushing: 5/12 top running backs 7/12 top running teams You see the running game because thats all you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, TheGame316 said: 15 minutes ago, plan9misfit said: Now Jimmy G is clearly the MVP of this game. He just threw pass #7. I mean, there’s NO WAY that Mostert could possibly have been so successful without Jimmy’s 71.4% completion percentage. That efficient pass to Kittle was amazing Nothing to do with GB thinking run there.... The 4 QBs you watched today, where all top tier efficiency QBs in the NFL this year. All 4. You saw 1 RB in the top tier rusher. Derrick Henry, whos team got smoked. Reconcile that in your old man brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Top 12 most efficient passers are 9/12 playoff QBs. Of those: Stafford missed 8 games. Dak missed the playoffs by a fieldgoal against the Jets. For rushing: 5/12 top running backs 7/12 top running teams You see the running game because thats all you are looking for. So 9 of the top passing teams and 7 of the top running teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DaBoys said: So 9 of the top passing teams and 7 of the top running teams? If you dont discount the fact that Stafford only played in 8 games.... Really 9 of 11 QBs. And yeah, 7 top running teams, clearly boosted by Lamar Jackson putting up 1300 yards rushing. 5 RBs. Should have never paid Zeke. Edited January 20, 2020 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DaBoys said: So 9 of the top passing teams and 7 of the top running teams? And I'm betting the #12 guy Watson was a guy without a top running game Take him out and you have 8/11 and 7/11 You have to be able to run the ball to be an efficient passer, or you are Derek Carr, Dak Prescott and Matthew Stafford, and you go .500 or less and miss the playoffs ***Unless you are Patrick Mahomes and have generational talent and a loaded WR/TE corps*** Edited January 20, 2020 by TheGame316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Matts4313 said: If you dont discount the fact that Stafford only played in 8 games.... And yeah, 7 top running teams, clearly boosted by Lamar Jackson putting up 1300 yards rushing. 5 RBs. Should have never paid Zeke. It's not like his salary has prevented us from anything. We have pahlenty of space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: If you dont discount the fact that Stafford only played in 8 games.... Really 9 of 11 QBs. And yeah, 7 top running teams, clearly boosted by Lamar Jackson putting up 1300 yards rushing. 5 RBs. Should have never paid Zeke. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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