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Seattle Seahawks @ Philadelphia Eagles

Seattle Seahawks @ Philadelphia Eagles  

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  1. 1. Who wins?

    • Philadelphia Eagles
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    • Seattle Seahawks
      57


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10 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

From earlier this year

 

It's only giving yourself up when it suits certain teams

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45 minutes ago, Matts4313 said:

Diving forward isnt. 

It literally is. In fact, Carson Wentz was denied a 2 point conversion earlier this year because he dove forward and was ruled down because of this change in rules.

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5 minutes ago, BlaqOptic said:

It literally is. In fact, Carson Wentz was denied a 2 point conversion earlier this year because he dove forward and was ruled down because of this change in rules.

No, technically it was a point of emphasis (not rule) change that was (mostly) determined to be unenforceable. But even if you wanted to apply it here, you are adding *15 yards and Wentz is still out. Because literally no defender stops when they see a dive. Think about how many TDs would be wiped off the board? How many 3rd or 4th & 1's. 

 

*maybe. Because players are given time to adjust to the slide/dive

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It doesn't matter if Wentz gave himself up or not.  That's not the issue.  The issue is a player intentionally cheap shotting another player.  In this case, Clowney hit Carson Wentz in the head on purpose.  That type of garbage is not suitable for this league.

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With the whole "he gave himself up while diving thing", man I just don't understand that. Nobody in the history of the game has dove head first in an attempt to "give themselves up", so if the refs ruled that someone who is diving head first gave themselves up, that's a god awful rule.

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1 hour ago, Kiltman said:

From earlier this year

 

Yeah, his knee hit the ground. That's the rule. You can dive or slide. But when you hit the ground, the play is over. It's smarter to dive because the play ends where you begin your slide instead of where you hit the ground on a dive.

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1 hour ago, showtime said:

It doesn't matter if Wentz gave himself up or not.  That's not the issue.  The issue is a player intentionally cheap shotting another player.  In this case, Clowney hit Carson Wentz in the head on purpose.  That type of garbage is not suitable for this league.

 

 

It didnt look like he was trying to drive into his head. Hell, first contact was with Wentz's back.

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4 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

Yeah, his knee hit the ground. That's the rule. You can dive or slide. But when you hit the ground, the play is over. It's smarter to dive because the play ends where you begin your slide instead of where you hit the ground on a dive.

Just watched the video of the Clowney play, y'all are crazy. Wentz slipped through a McDougald tackle and was falling forward when Clowney hit him. That's football, dude. You don't get special protections when you run as a QB. Plays like that are common for WRs and HBs. Guys hit them as they're going down all the time.

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1 hour ago, Kiltman said:

From earlier this year

 

He's ruled down where he first touches the ground which in this case is his knee well short of the end zone. 

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