iLikeDefense Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yikes! In a corresponding move the team signed: Well we sort of hoped for this signing when he was cut in preseason but sucks to lose Crick. I saw that Rubin stunk last year (so did Crick), so maybe he's just depth for Gotsis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The thing is that Rubin fits better as a 4-3 DT and likely more of a 3-4 NT if anything. Quniton Dial would have fit the the 3-4 DE but at least we have more DL bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosfan07 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Should've been done 2 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, broncosfan07 said: Should've been done 2 weeks ago. We didn't sign him last week because it would have guaranteed his whole year's salary. Anyway, if Adam Gotsis plays as well as he did at times on Monday night, and Rubin can force his way into the NT rotation with Domata Peko, then we've probably upgraded two positions. Crick is a starter at DE but tbh I think Gotsis and Shelby Harris are both better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosfan07 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just now, paul-mac said: We didn't sign him last week because it would have guaranteed his whole year's salary. Anyway, if Adam Gotsis plays as well as he did at times on Monday night, and Rubin can force his way into the NT rotation with Domata Peko, then we've probably upgraded two positions. Crick is a starter at DE but tbh I think Gotsis and Shelby Harris are both better players I meant with Crick. It was pretty obvious his injury was a lot more serious and definitely not the first time he's had back issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I didn't hate Crick last season, and he is a nice backup caliber 34DE who is 'meh' at everything (Not good, not bad), but at this point Gotsis and Harris both offer more athletically. I was extremely pleased with the way Adam played against SD, lets hope he takes his Derek Wolfe frame and motor and adds that Derek Wolfe technique. It seems to be trending that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Crisk was luke warm tea. I like the Rubin signing. I wouldn't mind a little more depth on the DL to keep those guys fresh in rarified air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Crick was a good pass rusher in our dime defense, but was atrocious vs. the run. I'm excited to see what Harris and Gotsis can do and who emerges as the 3rd down interior rusher next to Wolfe. Do we have the biggest D-line rotation in the league now? Four guys over 325 pounds, Wolfe and Gotsis both over 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Rubin being our 2nd NT makes a ton of sense. Having only 3 DE's is really iffy though, given how Wolfe isn't likely at 100 percent, or even close. Dude's a warrior, but we are paper thin at DE right now. No problem signing Rubin whatsoever, but I think we really need a 4th DE (Walker is a 4-3 DE on pass downs, can't really help this year at 3-4 DE until he bulks up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLikeDefense Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 40 minutes ago, Broncofan said: Rubin being our 2nd NT makes a ton of sense. Having only 3 DE's is really iffy though, given how Wolfe isn't likely at 100 percent, or even close. Dude's a warrior, but we are paper thin at DE right now. No problem signing Rubin whatsoever, but I think we really need a 4th DE (Walker is a 4-3 DE on pass downs, can't really help this year at 3-4 DE until he bulks up). Agreed! What is concerning is how many snaps Von and Shaq played, maybe it was our plan since we ran dime D alot with 2 DL and 2 EDGE. We gotta trust our back up EDGE rushers or at least sub them in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Probably think Jarrett gets put on waviers, then sent back to the PS (so we can also gain an extra year of service time on his rookie deal), and Peko Jr. released again, when Kerr returns. Then Kerr can rotate in at NT when needed, but provide that 4th DE too for 1st down/run situations at least (then go to 4-3 with Walker on passing downs). We definitely need the depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 With the Rubin signing and Crick going to IR, I expect that Zach Kerr will be almost exclusively playing 5-technique. He was listed at NT after final cuts, but at that point Peko Sr was the only Nose Tackle on the roster. We now have Peko Sr, Rubin and Jarrett on the 53 and Peko Jr on the practice squad (He may well take Jarrett's place when he's fully healthy) Zach Kerr is expected to play on Sunday to we have four healthy DEs DE: Wolfe, Gotsis, Harris, Kerr NT: Peko Sr, Rubin, Jarrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncos67 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yeah, Kerr coming back helps fill out the line with bodies a bit more. It's still ridiculously patchwork, but at least we have 4 guys now. I actually like Rubin. He's a solid run defender. I will say, Gotsis did a helluva job in run defense, although he still had his moments, but he looked more adept than last year. PFF gave him a stellar grade for the game, FWIW. I'm hopeful he stays healthy and improves. Big Rubin fan though, this is a solid signing and should also keep Peko fresher than he would otherwise be. That said, it's all but a certainty that DL is a Top 2 round pick again. Demarcus Walker should eventually be able to rotate in on the line when Ray is back, but he's still a pass rush specialist. A guy like Vita Vea next year Round 1 would be stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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