Skins212689 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Does that even put him in the Top 10 or 15? He had under 600 yards and ONLY 2 TD's last season plus is 34 I believe. I think 5-7 million is a fair offer. Also you have to take in consideration the Skins might be betting against themselves with Olsen. Other teams would HAVE to offer more for me to consider more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skins212689 said: He had under 600 yards and ONLY 2 TD's last season plus is 34 I believe. I think 5-7 million is a fair offer. Also you have to take in consideration the Skins might be betting against themselves with Olsen. Other teams would HAVE to offer more for me to consider more. 52 recs & 600 yards in 14 games is actually good for a TE especially considering his QB was an undrafted QB. Two TDs is poor for a TE but, that's indicative of two things IMO, again, QB play and playcalling. The Panthers force fed McCaffery inside the 10 yard line and bc of that it didn't get Olsen or the WRs many scoring opportunities. McCaffery had 19 total TDs last year. He had 4 receiving TDs, meaning the TEs & Wrs only got thrown accurate passes for around 13 TDs as Allen only threw 17 TDs last year. Edited February 4, 2020 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: 52 recs & 600 yards in 14 games is actually good for a TE especially considering his QB was an undrafted QB. Two TDs is poor for a TE but, that's indicative of two things IMO, again, QB play and playcalling. The Panthers force fed McCaffery inside the 10 yard line and bc of that it didn't get Olsen or the WRs many scoring opportunities. McCaffery had 19 total TDs last year. He had 4 receiving TDs, meaning the TEs & Wrs only got thrown accurate passes for around 13 TDs as Allen only threw 17 TDs last year. I'm not willing to pay Olsen 8-9 million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Skins212689 said: I'm not willing to pay Olsen 8-9 million dollars. It’s $1 to 2 million more over your fictional ceiling. That doesn’t make much sense to me especially when we could have $70 million in cap space if we cut Norman, PRich and Reed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 11:37 PM, turtle28 said: It’s $1 to 2 million more over your fictional ceiling. That doesn’t make much sense to me especially when we could have $70 million in cap space if we cut Norman, PRich and Reed. I'm looking to get Olsen for a Vernon Davis type deal if it's longer than a year contract. Vernon Davis signed a 3 year, $15,000,000 contract with the Washington Redskins, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $7,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,000,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 55 minutes ago, Skins212689 said: I'm looking to get Olsen for a Vernon Davis type deal if it's longer than a year contract. Vernon Davis signed a 3 year, $15,000,000 contract with the Washington Redskins, including a $4,000,000 signing bonus, $7,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,000,000. Why sign a 34-year-old TE to that large of a deal? When we signed Davis to that deal he had already played a year here I think and earned a contract extension and he was 31 or 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Why sign a 34-year-old TE to that large of a deal? When we signed Davis to that deal he had already played a year here I think and earned a contract extension and he was 31 or 32. Not the length the guaranteed amount is what I'm looking at. I believe Olsen would quickly sign a 1 year 5 MILLION dollar guaranteed deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Skins212689 said: Not the length the guaranteed amount is what I'm looking at. I believe Olsen would quickly sign a 1 year 5 MILLION dollar guaranteed deal. Well then it’s not the same deal maybe we get Olsen for only $5 mil but I have to expect playoff teams will offer him that much to play too and we won’t get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Skins212689 said: Not the length the guaranteed amount is what I'm looking at. I believe Olsen would quickly sign a 1 year 5 MILLION dollar guaranteed deal. I'm just not buying it like you are. He's visiting, what, 3 or 4 teams at least? He'll get some offers and get something solid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeT14 said: I'm just not buying it like you are. He's visiting, what, 3 or 4 teams at least? He'll get some offers and get something solid. Which is fine. If we don’t get him bc he wants a change at a Super Bowl, that’s fine. We all know we’re still rebuilding, I want Olsen on the right deal - max 2 years, $15 mil but I’d rather it be one year and under 7 but I’m realistic about this, he’s not signing some team friendly bs bc he doesn’t have to. He was scheduled to make $7 mil this year, that probably the starting point for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 2:31 PM, MikeT14 said: Cuts: Norman, Paul Richardson, Jordan Reed, Montae Nicholson, Ryan Anderson Do not resign: McCoy, Bostic, Penn, Thompson, Davis, DRC, a bunch of others... Trades: Kerrigan and our 3rd to the Jets for their 2nd and 4th rounder. Johnathan Allen and our 7th rounder to the Cardinals for their 2nd and 5th round selections. Cap space from moves: approx $85 million Extend: Scherff (5 years), Bergstrom (1 year), Flowers (2 years), Keenum (1 year) Prediction: Trent Williams returns to the team. Alex Smith is NOT cleared. Signings: Spencer Ware RB (1 year), Hunter Henry TE (3 years), Shaq Lawson DE (1 year), Wes Horton DE (1 year), Jamie Collins OLB (2 year deal), Mychal Kendricks OLB (2 year deal), James Bradberry CB (4 year deal), Damarious Randall (3 year deal) Draft: 1 (2) - Chase Young, DE, Ohio State 2 (38) - Bryce Hall, CB, UVA 2 (40) - Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota 4 (98) - Zach Baun, OLB, Wisconsin 4 (110) - Matt Bushman, TE, BYU 4 (112) comp pick - JR Reed, S, UGA 5 (130) - Lucas Niang, OT, TCU 5 (135) - Raequon Williams, DT, Michigan State 7 (206) - Logan Wilson, ILB, Wyoming Roster: QB: Haskins, Keenum, RB: Guice, Peterson, Love, Ware FB: Burton WR: McLaurin, Johnson, Harmon, Sims Jr., Sims, Quinn TE: Henry, Bushman, Sprinkle, Hentges OT: Williams, Moses, Niang, Christian OG: Flowers, Scherff, Bergstrom, Martin OC: Piersbacher, Roullier DE: Young, Sweat, Lawson, Horton DT: Payne, Ioannidis, Settle, Williams OLB: Jamie Collins, Mychal Kendricks, Baun, Cole Holcomb, Brailford MLB: Foster, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Wilson CB: Dunbar, Bradberry, Hall, Moreau, Moreland, Stroman FS: Randall, Apke SS: Collins, Reed, Everett K: Hopkins P: Way LS: Sunberg please don't trade Allen. We could have a generationally dominant DL. We need to rebuild our OL, TE and DBs in that order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, Doc Draper said: please don't trade Allen. We could have a generationally dominant DL. We need to rebuild our OL, TE and DBs in that order. I agree, NO TRADE on J Allen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 What about Ioanidis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I love our DT’s. For me I would keep Payne, Allen, Ioannidis and Settle. With the 4-3 they can change out between the 4. With JDR, they’re only going to get better! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins212689 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 hours ago, MikeT14 said: I'm just not buying it like you are. He's visiting, what, 3 or 4 teams at least? He'll get some offers and get something solid. Cool and if he wants to sign with one of them for more, let him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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