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8 hours ago, sherm said:

I've given Ward and Tartt a hard time over the yrs. Rightfully as they couldn't be counted on with all the injuries. As they have finally put together a healthy season and great play most of the season. I'm happy to see them shine. Hopefully they play great as a duo as they have all yr and help our defense/team go in the record books.

Tartts problem has never been production. He has literally always played well when he is on the field. We all knew he had this kind of ability but it was a matter of health.

Jimmie ward did not have the same production. Its pretty crazy how much we messed with his development early on by moving him around so much. This is the first year he played one position exclusively and it shows. I do think the work he got in the slot did help build his base for FS, but it didnt allow him to truly thrive in any one position. 

I am so proud of these guys. Ward in particular has really shown me something this year. He is probably the most sure tackler we have had in our secondary in the last 15 years, which is absolutely mind boggling when you think of what he has been for us over the last few years. I really hope are able to lock him down in the long run and that both guys keep taking their calcium supplements lol  

This team has so much heart. the only thing left to do is cement our place in history!

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21 hours ago, sherm said:

I've given Ward and Tartt a hard time over the yrs. Rightfully as they couldn't be counted on with all the injuries. As they have finally put together a healthy season and great play most of the season. I'm happy to see them shine. Hopefully they play great as a duo as they have all yr and help our defense/team go in the record books.

I was thinking the other day about how much Jimmie Ward's NFL career reminds me of Bob Sanders. Not the same kind of player exactly, but both are smaller and hit harder than they should and have lots of injuries. Sanders was rarely able to put full season together, but when he did, he was special. The Colts defense was something else when Sanders was healthy. So we have a healthy Jimmie this year, and the defense is special (and we have our Mathis/Freeney duo in Ford/Bosa). I don't know if Jimmie can keep this up, but as long as he can do it, our defense will benefit tremendously from it. If we re-sign him, that is.

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1 hour ago, rudyZ said:

I was thinking the other day about how much Jimmie Ward's NFL career reminds me of Bob Sanders. Not the same kind of player exactly, but both are smaller and hit harder than they should and have lots of injuries. Sanders was rarely able to put full season together, but when he did, he was special. The Colts defense was something else when Sanders was healthy. So we have a healthy Jimmie this year, and the defense is special (and we have our Mathis/Freeney duo in Ford/Bosa). I don't know if Jimmie can keep this up, but as long as he can do it, our defense will benefit tremendously from it. If we re-sign him, that is.

Yeah I remember Bob Sanders. Dude was like 5'8 but thick *** hell. Sanders only had a couple of seasons where he played double digit gms. He burned bright even if it wasn't for long. 

 

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3 hours ago, rudyZ said:

I was thinking the other day about how much Jimmie Ward's NFL career reminds me of Bob Sanders. Not the same kind of player exactly, but both are smaller and hit harder than they should and have lots of injuries. Sanders was rarely able to put full season together, but when he did, he was special. The Colts defense was something else when Sanders was healthy. So we have a healthy Jimmie this year, and the defense is special (and we have our Mathis/Freeney duo in Ford/Bosa). I don't know if Jimmie can keep this up, but as long as he can do it, our defense will benefit tremendously from it. If we re-sign him, that is.

I don't see the parallel personally. Sanders was a pretty consistent player....when he was healthy. Ward was never healthy enough, for long enough, to show any kind of consistency really. Sanders played one position, pretty much his entire career while Ward bounced around from nickelback, to boundary CB, to FS his first four years. Sanders was a tough, physical in-the-box type of safety. Ward is more of a coverage safety. Ward is not a big hitter....like at all. Sanders was known for being a pretty big hitter for his size.

Though not the same career arch, Ward and Byron Jones are a more similar comparison imho. Both first round picks who were looked at as future high-level starters but were miscast at their respective positions. Both had up and down play through their first couple of years in the league until new coaching personnel sought to switch their position and improve their play. Once they were placed at their more natural position, their play sky-rocketed and reached Pro Bowl level.

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Guess I'll try to be optimistic. 

Since 2009, there has only been two teams who lost in the SB and failed to make the playoffs the following year. The Panthers and Rams. Panthers had a ton of injuries and Cam wasn't himself and the Rams just didn't quite have the offensive line that they did last year. We'll probably lose Ward and AA but the core is still there for another run. I may temper my exceptions but maybe some reverse psychology will help us. 

2009 Colts: Lost in Divisional round in 2010

2010 Steelers: Lost in WC round in 2011

2011 Patriots: Lost in AFCCG in 2012

2012 49ers: Lost in NFCCG in 2013

2013 Broncos: Lost in Divisional round in 2014

2014 Seahawks: Lost in Divisional round in 2015

2015 Panthers: Missed Playoffs went 6-10.

2016  Falcons: Lost in Divisional Round in 2017

2017 Patriots: Won the SB in 2018

2018 Rams: Miss playoffs went 9-7

2019 49ers: ???

I believe that we should at least make the post season next year, barring our guys getting hurt or just flat out not playing well. 

Also to add, the broncos would go on to win the SB in 2015. So there's some hope that we could return to the big stage and perhaps win it all next year or the year after. 

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Since the fifth year option was introduced in 2011, we have the 25th highest rate in the NFL  of exercising said option at 44%. We have exercised 4 options, while declining 5. 

Fun note, the Seahawks have never exercised a fifth year option, but amazingly have only had three first round picks since 2011. 

Cleveland is the worst with any real sample size; they have exercised the fifth year option on only two of a possible twelve first round picks since 2011. 

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