TheVillain112 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 minute ago, bucsfan333 said: Imagine if they'd fired Lewis and promoted Hue to HC; like we did with Lovie and Koetter. In Lewis and the Bengals defense, we've lost Jay Gruden, Mike Zimmer, Hue Jackson, and Vance Joseph over the past several seasons. It's hard to replace that much coaching talent easily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingoLadd Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 59 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: Not entirely but he was definitely at fault. Offense has kept regressing since Hue left. Also, what I think did him in the most is not building game plans to highlight the talent on the team. The biggest hope going forward is that Mixon gets more snaps and Green gets more targets... Fair enough. Giving Hill carries and misusing bernard is pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I kinda wish they would have waited to fire him until after the Packers game. This mad Bengals team could be a definite trap game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, TheVillain112 said: The GM (Duke Tobin) in this case, I believe has done a fantastic job over the past few seasons. The RB situation isn't the best but let's be real, no one is trading anything for Jeremy Hill. It's up to the coaches to just sit him and play Mixon/Gio. Also, our now fired OC has been using them in some of the stupidest way possible. Gio for pass blocking and running up the middle in the red zone, isn't exactly his strong suit... I understand that there isnt much to be gotten for Jeremy Hill, and not trading him isnt forcing the bad rotation (it may be somewhat of a factor) but you are going to end up losing him after the season anyway. And at the level RBs get paid these days, you likely arent getting a Comp pick for him in the 2019 draft (especially with the roster needing to add talent as it is). So while Im not trying to indict Tobin's entire GM run here, it is a miss on his part. You cant tell me you wouldnt rather have had a 6th round pick this year or 5th or whatever in next years draft than Hill just rotting on the sidelines muddling up time for Mixon? I would have to imagine the Giants or Colts would have given up something for him. Possibly the Lions, Packers or even Seahawks would have been interested. And I hope he was immediately on the phone with the Cardinals once DJ went down. You may have not gotten much, but not much is better than nothing when a decent running back walks out the door at the end of the year that you are barely going to use him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLcheesehead12 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Not going to do any good even if Zampese sucks. This isn't anything more than old Marvin gettin desperate and needing a scapegoat for his mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 That's rough. He's been with the team since 03 as their QB coach. Seems to have done a good job there. Someone will probably hire him to be a QB coach again. He's just not an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coors Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 That lasted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 OverTheCap weighs in on Dalton, the Bengals cap strategies and more https://overthecap.com/bengals-bench-andy-dalton "The Bengals are more or less in a tear it down phase. After four straight years of double digit wins and five straight playoff losses, the Bengals started to look slower and older last year. If you look at the changes on offense maybe its no surprise he is struggling. When you have a player like a Dalton that is more of a manager than a gunslinger you have to keep him surrounded with good talent. Last year they allowed Marvin Jones and Mohamed Sanu, his second and third wide receivers, to depart in free agency. This year they removed the faces up front when they let starting tackle Andrew Whitworth and starting guard Kevin Zeitler to sign elsewhere. The losses on an offensive line I don’t think can be overstated." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Bill Lazor is very well thought of. He'll be a HC soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: Bill Lazor is very well thought of. He'll be a HC soon. ...is he now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 OL sucks but this guy obviously doesn't have it. Who's going to replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 minute ago, cddolphin said: ...is he now? I thought well of him for one season. And even then it was in the hopes he'd get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, cddolphin said: ...is he now? He's from a great coaching tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: I thought well of him for one season. And even then it was in the hopes he'd get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Its been a good run, Marv. But this is his last year forsure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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