dawgdish Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Congratulations Cowboys fans, you got one of the 2 best HC candidates this season (Riverboat Ron was the other). He should get the best out of your roster and instill a winning program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Typically I'm generally a half full type of guy. So the fact that I'm down but so many (outsiders) are positive about this is fascinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 I also expect this means TE is a bigger need now. Cole Kmet anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Texas_OutLaw7 said: Typically I'm generally a half full type of guy. So the fact that I'm down but so many (outsiders) are positive about this is fascinating. I dont find the hiring inspiring, but if he gets a good DC that will turn things for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 A dude on reddit is reporting that 105.3 'the ticket' announced Moore is coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: A dude on reddit is reporting that 105.3 'the ticket' announced Moore is coming back. We’d be stupid to let him go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roysmyboy31 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'd want whoever the HC was going to be to have significant input on his own staff. But I am good with Moore coming back. Judging from a tweet on the previous page, MM seems like he was impressed by Moore last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'm kind of 50/50 on this hire. Although many Packers fans are giving me hope. At the end of the day, almost anything or anyone is better than what just left. It was simply time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay Quote loss, a moment that doomed the football marriage of Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy. Anyone could see the Packers quarterback and head coach were headed for divorce well before that inconceivable 20-17 loss to the lowly Cardinals in December, the one that finally got McCarthy fired. Death stares and defiance from Rodgers had been constant for years by then. But how far back do you have to go to find the beginning of the end? Was it Week 3 of the 2017 season, when cameras caught Rodgers barking "Stupid ******* call!" at his coach? Quote Back to the honeymoon period. Even as the Packers went 15-1 in 2011, with Rodgers as league MVP. Even as they won their last Super Bowl title, in the 2010 season, with Rodgers as Super Bowl MVP. Even then, Rodgers was already seething at his coach. So keep going. All the way to when these two were first brought together. In early 2006. The worst-kept secret at 1265 Lombardi Avenue was that Rodgers seemed to loathe his coach from the moment McCarthy was hired. Nobody holds a grudge in any sport like Rodgers. When it comes to Rodgers, grudges do not merrily float away. They stick. They grow. They refuel. No, Rodgers would not forget that McCarthy had helped perpetuate his four-and-a-half-hour wait in the NFL draft green room the year prior. His nationally televised embarrassment. McCarthy, then the 49ers offensive coordinator, chose Alex Smith No. 1 overall. Not Rodgers. Quote Life sure wasn't fun for those rookie receivers, either. On-the-fly route changes put them in a no-win situation. They didn't know whether to listen to their coaches or Rodgers. A source close to the team says St. Brown became frustrated because, as much as he wanted to follow McCarthy’s play design, he also heard rumors of Rodgers freezing out teammates if they didn't do exactly what he demanded. So he listened to Rodgers. On one play in New England, Rodgers told St. Brown to run a post route when the play called for a flag. St. Brown ran the post, and pressure forced Rodgers to throw the ball away toward the flag—leading his position coach to grill him on what he was thinking. St. Brown told him he was "improvising" so he didn't upset Rodgers. Knowing what was up, McCarthy told him to stick with the routes called. "That's when it went off the rails," the source close to the team says. "This **** was terrible. He ****ed McCarthy over. Aaron undermined him." The A.I. was operating on its own. Nobody was going to rein this in. "Of course, it comes to a head, and what does he want to do?" says a source who was once close to Rodgers. "He wants to cut him out of his life, just like he cut his family out." Rodgers refused to take scheduled throws underneath, instead waiting for a deep shot that rarely materialized. The lack of experience did not help. These rookies simply did not have the thousands of reps Rodgers once had with Nelson and company, so he couldn't make subtle audibles play after play with them. In one red-zone drill in practice, St. Brown didn't pick up on a signal, and Rodgers lost it. No, he wasn't exactly giving these rookies a chance to grow, either. A source close to one of the team's skill-position starters says Rodgers was the one "sinking the ship" with zero interest in developing Valdes-Scantling, St. Brown or Moore. Wow. Holy crap wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I’ll tell you one person who hates the hire, Mark Lane. He’s been retweeting Packer fan hatred from 2017-2018 for the last hour lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Sounds like Rogers really is a whiney little ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roysmyboy31 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay Wow. Holy crap wow. That article just makes Aaron sound like an a-hole, which doesn't surprise me that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I LIKE THIS: Quote McCarthy is a harbinger on the fundamentals of QB play, particularly in regards to footwork. McCarthy’s QB school was instrumental in Rodgers’ development. Every year around March, McCarthy invites his QBs back to the facility for a two-week camp where he reviews every play from the previous year with his QBs while honing in on the finer details, including details as small as arm angle, head positioning and obviously footwork, that enable effective play from the QB position. No detail is too small as McCarthy will even spend time fixing how a QB takes a snap from under center. Rodgers described it as “breaking that thing (QB play) down to a science, and it really gives you a good feel for what you need to work on.” McCarthy has helped a few legendary signal-callers with his QB school, including Rich Gannon (when McCarthy was QB coach in Kansas City), Brett Favre and the aforementioned Rodgers, so there’s no question as to whether Dak Prescott would benefit from it as well. https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2020/01/06/mike-mccarthys-pros-and-cons-playoff-success-ability-to-develop-dak-prescott-among-top-selling-points-to-cowboys/ Quote McCarthy has stated on numerous occasions that he’s going to be more creative with his schemes on offense with his new team to the point where he has a “LESS VOLUME, MORE CREATIVITY” sign on his desk. He spent his time off studying, in detail, every top-10 NFL offense from last year, which has caused him to make prudent changes to his offense, with promises of RPOs, pre-snap motion, up-tempo and stressed out opposing defense wherever he is hired. Nevertheless, it’s OK to be skeptical of that, too. It’s easy to market one’s self to NFL teams as an analytic-minded head coach who will create an innovative offense built on creativity, but it’s entirely different to actually follow through and stay committed through all the trials and tribulations that happen during an NFL season. Cowboys fans have already had to deal with the promise of offensive innovation before it was quickly torn up after the slightest deviation from the original plan (like when Tyron Smith is injured). The most innovative offenses maintain their creativity even when things don’t go according to plan. Take the Kansas City Chiefs as an example. When backup QB Matt Moore was forced to start two games against would-be playoff teams (Packers and Vikings) who have top-15 defenses in terms of DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) in replace of an injured Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City didn’t revert to a conservative, rushing-based game plan. Instead, they stayed aggressive and used their creativity to scheme up production for their backup QB. In Moore’s two starts, Kansas City passed the ball 79 times while only rushing 38 times, meaning they still attacked through the air on 67.5% of snaps despite playing with a backup QB. Edited January 6, 2020 by Matts4313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeast23 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay Wow. Holy crap wow. I can 100 percent agree with this. Rodgers ego often gets in his way. I always thought Rodgers cut McCarthys throat behind the scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay Wow. Holy crap wow. Don't put too much into that hit piece. The only two players they really quote heavily are Greg Jennings (Off the team after 2012) and Jermichael Finley (Off the team after 2013) neither were close to the organization after their release and both have been trying to make a living giving hot takes on the Packers ever since. There was obviously a breakdown between McCarthy and Rodgers but it was more just natural progression of a successful organization finally not being successful anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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