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I don't see simmons or CeeDee making it to us unless cedee has bad combine. 

I want both or one sadly. So juedy and Murray may be combo. Unless we trade down in first and grab another top player and go LB in 2nd.

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7 minutes ago, roi34 said:

I don't see simmons or CeeDee making it to us unless cedee has bad combine. 

I want both or one sadly. So juedy and Murray may be combo. Unless we trade down in first and grab another top player and go LB in 2nd.

Believe me Jeudy is no consolation prize. Day 1 he will translate better than Ceedee and has the highest floor in this class easily. If we get him at 12 somehow, I'll buy his jersey.

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Lamb, Ruggs, Higgins, Juedy, Shenault, Jefferson is my preference 

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On 1/8/2020 at 3:10 PM, MrOaktown_56 said:

Trading carr for only a 3 and 4 and trading 2 1sts for tua is a nightmare. We need to build the roster. Those firsts are worth their weight in gold. 

 

4 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said:

It's the ******* MOCK OFFSEASON thread. Talk about Carr somewhere else. Like the thread we have for it...

Hypocrite much. I'm responding to your take. The off season and our draft has something to do with whether we move on at QB. You are commenting on trading Carr in someones mock, and I am commenting on your post disagreeing with doing so and the value.

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1 hour ago, ragingraider said:

 

Hypocrite much. I'm responding to your take. The off season and our draft has something to do with whether we move on at QB. You are commenting on trading Carr in someones mock, and I am commenting on your post disagreeing with doing so and the value.

SB88 literally made a thread for it and since then I haven't talked about DC in here. I said it in the other thread. I said it in here. Why are you responding to something I said weeks ago today? If you want to respond to it, quote it in another thread. I don't want to talk about Carr 24/7 like most of the forum. I'm a raiders fan. I want to talk about the draft and FA. 

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What I quoted you on was from this topic, and it isn't the only DC comment you've made in this topic.

I don't think it's a problem to discuss DC, but you made it an issue. I think it is a fundamental offseason issue and pertinent to this topic and to any offseason mock or FA discussion. 

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4 minutes ago, ragingraider said:

What I quoted you on was from this topic, and it isn't the only DC comment you've made in this topic.

I don't think it's a problem to discuss DC, but you made it an issue. I think it is a fundamental offseason issue and pertinent to this topic and to any offseason mock or FA discussion. 

It isn't. But since the mod post, I have not posted about him in here. I'm following the rules and trying to keep things civil. Clearly you aren't capable of that so just stop quoting my posts.

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19: R1P19
 
WR HENRY RUGGS III
ALABAMA
21: R1P21
 
QB JORDAN LOVE
UTAH STATE
53: R2P21
 
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN
80: R3P16
 
CB CAMERON DANTZLER
MISSISSIPPI STATE
81: R3P17
 
LB PATRICK QUEEN
LSU
85: R3P21
 
WR TYLER JOHNSON
MINNESOTA
91: R3P27
 
RB CAM AKERS
FSU
126: R4P23
 
LB MALIK HARRISON
OHIO STATE
131: R4P28
 
WR QUINTEZ CEPHUS
WISCONSIN
226: R7P12
 
LB CAM BROWN
PENN STATE
TEAM DRAFT ASSESSMENT
WR HENRY RUGGS III
ALABAMA
DL NONE DRAFTED
CB CAMERON DANTZLER
MISSISSIPPI STATE
EDGE NONE DRAFTED
G NONE DRAFTED
QB JORDAN LOVE
UTAH STATE
LB ZACK BAUN
WISCONSIN
DL NONE DRAFTED
S NONE DRAFTED
TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
  • ROUND: 1 PICK: 12
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 1 PICK: 21
  • ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
  • ROUND: 3 PICK: 21
TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 23
  • ROUND: 4 PICK: 28

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CAP SPACE (overthecap): 55M

CUT
Tahir Whitehead LB : The saving is significant and his play not good enough to justify his salary. He was starting to get phased out the last 3 weeks of 2019.

TRADE 
Gabe Jackson for a 5th round pick. Good can step in and provide a solid level of play for a 1/4 of his salary. The 3rd round is a good spot to add competition at the position and we have 3 picks of those.

CAP: 70.34M

ERFA (tendered)
Keelan Doss WR 
Trent Sieg LS
Daniel Carlson K
Makinton Dorleant CB
Jeremiah Valoaga DE
Dallin Leavitt S
Cameron Hunt G
D.J Killings CB

RFA
Nathan Peterman QB -2.14M (original round tender - 5th)
Nicholas Morrow LB -2.14M (right of first refusal tender) 
David Sharpe OT -2.14M (original round tender - 4th)

UFA (re-signed)
DeAndre Washington RB 3Y/10M -3M 
Dion Jordan DE 2Y/6M -3M

CAP: 59.3M

UFA (signed)
Marcus Mariota 1Y/5M
Everson Griffen DE 2Y/23M
Cory Littleton LB 5Y/75M
Nick Kwiatkoski LB 4Y/29M
Anthony Brown CB 1Y/7M
Jayron Kearse S 2Y/5M

CAP: 14M

DRAFT
#12 - CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma
#19 - Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma
#80 - Troy Dye LB Oregon
#81 - Darnay Holmes CB UCLA
#92 - Damien Lewis OG LSU
#111 - Ke'Shawn Vaughn RB Vanderbilt
5th rd pick (Gabe Jackson trade) - Mohamed Barry LB Nebraska
#204 - Jaron Bryant CB Fresno State

Offense

QB: Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota/DeShone Kizer/Nathan Peterman
RB: Josh Jacobs/Ke'Shawn Vaughn/DeAndre Washington/Mark Thompson/William Stanback
FB: Alec Ingold
WR: Tyrell Williams/Hunter Renfrow/Rico Gafford/Anthony Ratliff-Williams
WR: CeeDee Lamb/Zay Jones/Keelan Doss/Marcell Ateman
TE: Darren Waller/Foster Moreau/Derek Carrier
LT: Kolton Miller/Brandon Parker
LG: Richie Incognito/Lester Cotton
OC: Rodney Hudson/Andre James/Erik Magnuson
RG: Denzelle Good/Damien Lewis/Cameron Hunt/Kyle Kalis
RT: Trent Brown/David Sharpe

Defense


DE: Clelin Ferrell/Dion Jordan/Ade Aruna/Kendall Donnerson
DT: Johnathan Hankins/P.J Hall
DT: Neville Gallimore/Maurice Hurst
DE: Maxx Crosby/Everson Griffen/Arden Key/Jeremiah Valoaga
LB: Marquel Lee/Troy Dye
LB: Nick Kwiatkoski/Mohamed Barry/Tevon Coney
LB: Cory Littleton/Nicholas Morrow/Nick Usher/Derrick Moncrief
CB: Anthony Brown/Isaiah Johnson/Darnay Holmes/Ken Crawley/Jordan Brown/Dylan Mabin/D.J Killings
SS: Johnathan Abram/Jayron Kearse/Dallin Leavitt
FS: LaMarcus Joyner/Erik Harris
CB: Trayvon Mullen/Nevin Lawson/Keisean Nixon/Jaron Bryant/Nick Nelson/Makinton Dorleant

ST

K: Daniel Carlson
P: A.J Cole
LS: Trent Sieg

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1 hour ago, oakdb36 said:

CAP SPACE (overthecap): 55M

CUT
Tahir Whitehead LB : The saving is significant and his play not good enough to justify his salary. He was starting to get phased out the last 3 weeks of 2019.

TRADE 
Gabe Jackson for a 5th round pick. Good can step in and provide a solid level of play for a 1/4 of his salary. The 3rd round is a good spot to add competition at the position and we have 3 picks of those.

CAP: 70.34M

ERFA (tendered)
Keelan Doss WR 
Trent Sieg LS
Daniel Carlson K
Makinton Dorleant CB
Jeremiah Valoaga DE
Dallin Leavitt S
Cameron Hunt G
D.J Killings CB

RFA
Nathan Peterman QB -2.14M (original round tender - 5th)
Nicholas Morrow LB -2.14M (right of first refusal tender) 
David Sharpe OT -2.14M (original round tender - 4th)

UFA (re-signed)
DeAndre Washington RB 3Y/10M -3M 
Dion Jordan DE 2Y/6M -3M

CAP: 59.3M

UFA (signed)
Marcus Mariota 1Y/5M
Everson Griffen DE 2Y/23M
Cory Littleton LB 5Y/75M
Nick Kwiatkoski LB 4Y/29M
Anthony Brown CB 1Y/7M
Jayron Kearse S 2Y/5M

CAP: 14M

DRAFT
#12 - CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma
#19 - Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma
#80 - Troy Dye LB Oregon
#81 - Darnay Holmes CB UCLA
#92 - Damien Lewis OG LSU
#111 - Ke'Shawn Vaughn RB Vanderbilt
5th rd pick (Gabe Jackson trade) - Mohamed Barry LB Nebraska
#204 - Jaron Bryant CB Fresno State

Offense

QB: Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota/DeShone Kizer/Nathan Peterman
RB: Josh Jacobs/Ke'Shawn Vaughn/DeAndre Washington/Mark Thompson/William Stanback
FB: Alec Ingold
WR: Tyrell Williams/Hunter Renfrow/Rico Gafford/Anthony Ratliff-Williams
WR: CeeDee Lamb/Zay Jones/Keelan Doss/Marcell Ateman
TE: Darren Waller/Foster Moreau/Derek Carrier
LT: Kolton Miller/Brandon Parker
LG: Richie Incognito/Lester Cotton
OC: Rodney Hudson/Andre James/Erik Magnuson
RG: Denzelle Good/Damien Lewis/Cameron Hunt/Kyle Kalis
RT: Trent Brown/David Sharpe

Defense


DE: Clelin Ferrell/Dion Jordan/Ade Aruna/Kendall Donnerson
DT: Johnathan Hankins/P.J Hall
DT: Neville Gallimore/Maurice Hurst
DE: Maxx Crosby/Everson Griffen/Arden Key/Jeremiah Valoaga
LB: Marquel Lee/Troy Dye
LB: Nick Kwiatkoski/Mohamed Barry/Tevon Coney
LB: Cory Littleton/Nicholas Morrow/Nick Usher/Derrick Moncrief
CB: Anthony Brown/Isaiah Johnson/Darnay Holmes/Ken Crawley/Jordan Brown/Dylan Mabin/D.J Killings
SS: Johnathan Abram/Jayron Kearse/Dallin Leavitt
FS: LaMarcus Joyner/Erik Harris
CB: Trayvon Mullen/Nevin Lawson/Keisean Nixon/Jaron Bryant/Nick Nelson/Makinton Dorleant

ST

K: Daniel Carlson
P: A.J Cole
LS: Trent Sieg

I wouldn't mind another WR in there somewhere, but can't complain overall.  Nice job.

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I think it's pretty realistic. I can definitely see an emphasis on young, fast lbs in free agency since there are no guarantees in the draft.

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1 minute ago, NJ Raider said:

I think it's pretty realistic. I can definitely see an emphasis on young, fast lbs in free agency since there are no guarantees in the draft.

Yeah, Simmons is probably gone when we pick so they'd be forced to pick one of Queen and Murray in the 1st to adress the obvious issue. So i think the position has to be adressed before we get to the draft and probably with more than just one player. And if we were to get those 2 in FA and Simmons makes it to our pick, i'd still draft him.

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We really want four OTs and three QBs to go top ten and it's not all that unrealistic consider the top 11 teams. You can also throw okudah, jeudy, and probably an edge guy to the Jets in there. Not getting my hopes up for Simmons, but we could see brown there and mayock doesn't seem that enthusiastic about a receiver in the first, especially at 12. Could be smoke though. This forum would lose it, but I could see brown at 12 and a corner at 19 if we sign at least one startable lb and a speed wr. Not saying it's what I want, but I can see it. Defense would go from terrible to downright scary. I lgo back and forth everyday on what I want. Good thing I'm not making these decisions but I don't think Mayock will let us down regardless.

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On 1/29/2020 at 9:34 AM, oakdb36 said:

Yeah, Simmons is probably gone when we pick so they'd be forced to pick one of Queen and Murray in the 1st to adress the obvious issue. So i think the position has to be adressed before we get to the draft and probably with more than just one player. And if we were to get those 2 in FA and Simmons makes it to our pick, i'd still draft him.

This is my favorite mock so far. I don't htink we sign 2 LB, even though I really hope we sign these two, but the roster would be soo much better.

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