roi34 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I don't see simmons or CeeDee making it to us unless cedee has bad combine. I want both or one sadly. So juedy and Murray may be combo. Unless we trade down in first and grab another top player and go LB in 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, roi34 said: I don't see simmons or CeeDee making it to us unless cedee has bad combine. I want both or one sadly. So juedy and Murray may be combo. Unless we trade down in first and grab another top player and go LB in 2nd. Believe me Jeudy is no consolation prize. Day 1 he will translate better than Ceedee and has the highest floor in this class easily. If we get him at 12 somehow, I'll buy his jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG_C2X Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Lamb, Ruggs, Higgins, Juedy, Shenault, Jefferson is my preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingraider Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 3:10 PM, MrOaktown_56 said: Trading carr for only a 3 and 4 and trading 2 1sts for tua is a nightmare. We need to build the roster. Those firsts are worth their weight in gold. 4 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: It's the ******* MOCK OFFSEASON thread. Talk about Carr somewhere else. Like the thread we have for it... Hypocrite much. I'm responding to your take. The off season and our draft has something to do with whether we move on at QB. You are commenting on trading Carr in someones mock, and I am commenting on your post disagreeing with doing so and the value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ragingraider said: Hypocrite much. I'm responding to your take. The off season and our draft has something to do with whether we move on at QB. You are commenting on trading Carr in someones mock, and I am commenting on your post disagreeing with doing so and the value. SB88 literally made a thread for it and since then I haven't talked about DC in here. I said it in the other thread. I said it in here. Why are you responding to something I said weeks ago today? If you want to respond to it, quote it in another thread. I don't want to talk about Carr 24/7 like most of the forum. I'm a raiders fan. I want to talk about the draft and FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingraider Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 What I quoted you on was from this topic, and it isn't the only DC comment you've made in this topic. I don't think it's a problem to discuss DC, but you made it an issue. I think it is a fundamental offseason issue and pertinent to this topic and to any offseason mock or FA discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ragingraider said: What I quoted you on was from this topic, and it isn't the only DC comment you've made in this topic. I don't think it's a problem to discuss DC, but you made it an issue. I think it is a fundamental offseason issue and pertinent to this topic and to any offseason mock or FA discussion. It isn't. But since the mod post, I have not posted about him in here. I'm following the rules and trying to keep things civil. Clearly you aren't capable of that so just stop quoting my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingraider Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 This started when you quoted me. But, no problem. Don't quote me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 19: R1P19 WR HENRY RUGGS III ALABAMA 21: R1P21 QB JORDAN LOVE UTAH STATE 53: R2P21 LB ZACK BAUN WISCONSIN 80: R3P16 CB CAMERON DANTZLER MISSISSIPPI STATE 81: R3P17 LB PATRICK QUEEN LSU 85: R3P21 WR TYLER JOHNSON MINNESOTA 91: R3P27 RB CAM AKERS FSU 126: R4P23 LB MALIK HARRISON OHIO STATE 131: R4P28 WR QUINTEZ CEPHUS WISCONSIN 226: R7P12 LB CAM BROWN PENN STATE TEAM DRAFT ASSESSMENT WR HENRY RUGGS III ALABAMA DL NONE DRAFTED CB CAMERON DANTZLER MISSISSIPPI STATE EDGE NONE DRAFTED G NONE DRAFTED QB JORDAN LOVE UTAH STATE LB ZACK BAUN WISCONSIN DL NONE DRAFTED S NONE DRAFTED TRADES TRADE PARTNER: PHILADELPHIA EAGLES SENT: ROUND: 1 PICK: 12 RECEIVED: ROUND: 1 PICK: 21 ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 ROUND: 3 PICK: 21 TRADE PARTNER: BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT: ROUND: 4 PICK: 15 RECEIVED: ROUND: 4 PICK: 23 ROUND: 4 PICK: 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 CAP SPACE (overthecap): 55M CUT Tahir Whitehead LB : The saving is significant and his play not good enough to justify his salary. He was starting to get phased out the last 3 weeks of 2019. TRADE Gabe Jackson for a 5th round pick. Good can step in and provide a solid level of play for a 1/4 of his salary. The 3rd round is a good spot to add competition at the position and we have 3 picks of those. CAP: 70.34M ERFA (tendered) Keelan Doss WR Trent Sieg LS Daniel Carlson K Makinton Dorleant CB Jeremiah Valoaga DE Dallin Leavitt S Cameron Hunt G D.J Killings CB RFA Nathan Peterman QB -2.14M (original round tender - 5th) Nicholas Morrow LB -2.14M (right of first refusal tender) David Sharpe OT -2.14M (original round tender - 4th) UFA (re-signed) DeAndre Washington RB 3Y/10M -3M Dion Jordan DE 2Y/6M -3M CAP: 59.3M UFA (signed) Marcus Mariota 1Y/5M Everson Griffen DE 2Y/23M Cory Littleton LB 5Y/75M Nick Kwiatkoski LB 4Y/29M Anthony Brown CB 1Y/7M Jayron Kearse S 2Y/5M CAP: 14M DRAFT #12 - CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma #19 - Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma #80 - Troy Dye LB Oregon #81 - Darnay Holmes CB UCLA #92 - Damien Lewis OG LSU #111 - Ke'Shawn Vaughn RB Vanderbilt 5th rd pick (Gabe Jackson trade) - Mohamed Barry LB Nebraska #204 - Jaron Bryant CB Fresno State Offense QB: Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota/DeShone Kizer/Nathan Peterman RB: Josh Jacobs/Ke'Shawn Vaughn/DeAndre Washington/Mark Thompson/William Stanback FB: Alec Ingold WR: Tyrell Williams/Hunter Renfrow/Rico Gafford/Anthony Ratliff-Williams WR: CeeDee Lamb/Zay Jones/Keelan Doss/Marcell Ateman TE: Darren Waller/Foster Moreau/Derek Carrier LT: Kolton Miller/Brandon Parker LG: Richie Incognito/Lester Cotton OC: Rodney Hudson/Andre James/Erik Magnuson RG: Denzelle Good/Damien Lewis/Cameron Hunt/Kyle Kalis RT: Trent Brown/David Sharpe Defense DE: Clelin Ferrell/Dion Jordan/Ade Aruna/Kendall Donnerson DT: Johnathan Hankins/P.J Hall DT: Neville Gallimore/Maurice Hurst DE: Maxx Crosby/Everson Griffen/Arden Key/Jeremiah Valoaga LB: Marquel Lee/Troy Dye LB: Nick Kwiatkoski/Mohamed Barry/Tevon Coney LB: Cory Littleton/Nicholas Morrow/Nick Usher/Derrick Moncrief CB: Anthony Brown/Isaiah Johnson/Darnay Holmes/Ken Crawley/Jordan Brown/Dylan Mabin/D.J Killings SS: Johnathan Abram/Jayron Kearse/Dallin Leavitt FS: LaMarcus Joyner/Erik Harris CB: Trayvon Mullen/Nevin Lawson/Keisean Nixon/Jaron Bryant/Nick Nelson/Makinton Dorleant ST K: Daniel Carlson P: A.J Cole LS: Trent Sieg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, oakdb36 said: CAP SPACE (overthecap): 55M CUT Tahir Whitehead LB : The saving is significant and his play not good enough to justify his salary. He was starting to get phased out the last 3 weeks of 2019. TRADE Gabe Jackson for a 5th round pick. Good can step in and provide a solid level of play for a 1/4 of his salary. The 3rd round is a good spot to add competition at the position and we have 3 picks of those. CAP: 70.34M ERFA (tendered) Keelan Doss WR Trent Sieg LS Daniel Carlson K Makinton Dorleant CB Jeremiah Valoaga DE Dallin Leavitt S Cameron Hunt G D.J Killings CB RFA Nathan Peterman QB -2.14M (original round tender - 5th) Nicholas Morrow LB -2.14M (right of first refusal tender) David Sharpe OT -2.14M (original round tender - 4th) UFA (re-signed) DeAndre Washington RB 3Y/10M -3M Dion Jordan DE 2Y/6M -3M CAP: 59.3M UFA (signed) Marcus Mariota 1Y/5M Everson Griffen DE 2Y/23M Cory Littleton LB 5Y/75M Nick Kwiatkoski LB 4Y/29M Anthony Brown CB 1Y/7M Jayron Kearse S 2Y/5M CAP: 14M DRAFT #12 - CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma #19 - Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma #80 - Troy Dye LB Oregon #81 - Darnay Holmes CB UCLA #92 - Damien Lewis OG LSU #111 - Ke'Shawn Vaughn RB Vanderbilt 5th rd pick (Gabe Jackson trade) - Mohamed Barry LB Nebraska #204 - Jaron Bryant CB Fresno State Offense QB: Derek Carr/Marcus Mariota/DeShone Kizer/Nathan Peterman RB: Josh Jacobs/Ke'Shawn Vaughn/DeAndre Washington/Mark Thompson/William Stanback FB: Alec Ingold WR: Tyrell Williams/Hunter Renfrow/Rico Gafford/Anthony Ratliff-Williams WR: CeeDee Lamb/Zay Jones/Keelan Doss/Marcell Ateman TE: Darren Waller/Foster Moreau/Derek Carrier LT: Kolton Miller/Brandon Parker LG: Richie Incognito/Lester Cotton OC: Rodney Hudson/Andre James/Erik Magnuson RG: Denzelle Good/Damien Lewis/Cameron Hunt/Kyle Kalis RT: Trent Brown/David Sharpe Defense DE: Clelin Ferrell/Dion Jordan/Ade Aruna/Kendall Donnerson DT: Johnathan Hankins/P.J Hall DT: Neville Gallimore/Maurice Hurst DE: Maxx Crosby/Everson Griffen/Arden Key/Jeremiah Valoaga LB: Marquel Lee/Troy Dye LB: Nick Kwiatkoski/Mohamed Barry/Tevon Coney LB: Cory Littleton/Nicholas Morrow/Nick Usher/Derrick Moncrief CB: Anthony Brown/Isaiah Johnson/Darnay Holmes/Ken Crawley/Jordan Brown/Dylan Mabin/D.J Killings SS: Johnathan Abram/Jayron Kearse/Dallin Leavitt FS: LaMarcus Joyner/Erik Harris CB: Trayvon Mullen/Nevin Lawson/Keisean Nixon/Jaron Bryant/Nick Nelson/Makinton Dorleant ST K: Daniel Carlson P: A.J Cole LS: Trent Sieg I wouldn't mind another WR in there somewhere, but can't complain overall. Nice job. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I think it's pretty realistic. I can definitely see an emphasis on young, fast lbs in free agency since there are no guarantees in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, NJ Raider said: I think it's pretty realistic. I can definitely see an emphasis on young, fast lbs in free agency since there are no guarantees in the draft. Yeah, Simmons is probably gone when we pick so they'd be forced to pick one of Queen and Murray in the 1st to adress the obvious issue. So i think the position has to be adressed before we get to the draft and probably with more than just one player. And if we were to get those 2 in FA and Simmons makes it to our pick, i'd still draft him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 We really want four OTs and three QBs to go top ten and it's not all that unrealistic consider the top 11 teams. You can also throw okudah, jeudy, and probably an edge guy to the Jets in there. Not getting my hopes up for Simmons, but we could see brown there and mayock doesn't seem that enthusiastic about a receiver in the first, especially at 12. Could be smoke though. This forum would lose it, but I could see brown at 12 and a corner at 19 if we sign at least one startable lb and a speed wr. Not saying it's what I want, but I can see it. Defense would go from terrible to downright scary. I lgo back and forth everyday on what I want. Good thing I'm not making these decisions but I don't think Mayock will let us down regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 9:34 AM, oakdb36 said: Yeah, Simmons is probably gone when we pick so they'd be forced to pick one of Queen and Murray in the 1st to adress the obvious issue. So i think the position has to be adressed before we get to the draft and probably with more than just one player. And if we were to get those 2 in FA and Simmons makes it to our pick, i'd still draft him. This is my favorite mock so far. I don't htink we sign 2 LB, even though I really hope we sign these two, but the roster would be soo much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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