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1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said:

Daniel Jeremiah's first mock of the year had Becton going #4 to the Giants and Queen to the Raiders at #19.

Okay.  That's interesting. 

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14 minutes ago, Beck Bristow said:

Okay.  That's interesting. 

It's definitely worth noting just because he's a guy in the know within the scouting community, but in the end in won't mean much. For reference, below is his first mock of 2019 (posted January 18th last year). It's not exactly an accurate estimation of what actually happened in the draft (he had Kyler Murray going #32 to the Patriots). There's still a ton of time between now and the draft so these mocks are pretty meaningless.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001011490/article/daniel-jeremiah-mock-draft-10-kyler-murray-lands-with-patriots

 

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Yeah, outside of a handful of guys you know are top 5-10 (Burrow, Chase, Tua, Simmons, Okudah, Brown) just about anyone else could go anywhere between 10-40, and some of those guys being mocked in rd 1 now, won't go until day 3.  I don't think any of the top OT's are set in stone yet.  I also don't think any of them are no doubt franchise LT's.

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4 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

Daniel Jeremiah's first mock of the year had Becton going #4 to the Giants and Queen to the Raiders at #19.

Jeremiah's was probably the most over-reaction draft I've seen in years.

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10 minutes ago, INbengalfan said:

Jeremiah's was probably the most over-reaction draft I've seen in years.

Lol Yeah. There is definitely an element of going against the grain just to garner attention. 

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This weeks update they used Fanspeak where they have the premium and were able to trade back 6-7 spots at both the top of the 2nd rd picking up a 3rd rd pick and trading back at the top of the 3rd rd 5-6 spots and picking up a 4th rd pick.  Here is what they ended up with:

1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
2. Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
3a. Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
3b. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
4a. Lloyd Cushonberry, IOL, LSU
4b. Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
5. Tyler Bass, K, Georgia Southern

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38 minutes ago, THE DUKE said:

This weeks update they used Fanspeak where they have the premium and were able to trade back 6-7 spots at both the top of the 2nd rd picking up a 3rd rd pick and trading back at the top of the 3rd rd 5-6 spots and picking up a 4th rd pick.  Here is what they ended up with:

1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
2. Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
3a. Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
3b. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
4a. Lloyd Cushonberry, IOL, LSU
4b. Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
5. Tyler Bass, K, Georgia Southern

A+ draft, though half of those names will be long gone in those draft slots.

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Tried walk the Mock, and ignored glaring problems (the UK WR Bowden was still on the board in the seventh round)...

My latest mock from walkthemock.com for CIN via Default ranking

1:1 - QB Joe Burrow, LSU 
2:1 - LB Patrick Queen, LSU 
3:1 - OT Prince Tega Wanogho, Auburn 
4:1 - WR Michael Pittman Jr., Southern California 
5:1 - OT Saahdiq Charles, LSU 
6:1 - CB A.J. Green, Oklahoma State 
7:1 - G Damien Lewis, LSU 
 

 

This assumed we got no outside FAs

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2 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

A+ draft, though half of those names will be long gone in those draft slots.

We see it every year though, the guys no one expects going early and the guys draft twitter love falling to mid to late rounds.

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4 hours ago, THE DUKE said:

This weeks update they used Fanspeak where they have the premium and were able to trade back 6-7 spots at both the top of the 2nd rd picking up a 3rd rd pick and trading back at the top of the 3rd rd 5-6 spots and picking up a 4th rd pick.  Here is what they ended up with:

1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
2. Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
3a. Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
3b. Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
4a. Lloyd Cushonberry, IOL, LSU
4b. Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
5. Tyler Bass, K, Georgia Southern

Love it.  Make it happen.

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This weeks iteration.  Not a fan of some of these choices, especially considering who was available.  Liskow fully buys into PFF devaluing linebacker.  Only way this works is if they hit G and LB in free agency with starter level guys, not "compete for a spot" guys, which even they acknowledged at the end of the podcast.

  1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
  2. Antoine Winfield Jr, DB, Minnesota
  3. Cameron Dansler, CB, Mississippi State
  4. Kenny Wilekes, DE, Mighigan State
  5. Devin Duvarney, WR, Texas

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20 hours ago, THE DUKE said:

This weeks iteration.  Not a fan of some of these choices, especially considering who was available.  Liskow fully buys into PFF devaluing linebacker.  Only way this works is if they hit G and LB in free agency with starter level guys, not "compete for a spot" guys, which even they acknowledged at the end of the podcast.

  1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
  2. Antoine Winfield Jr, DB, Minnesota
  3. Cameron Dansler, CB, Mississippi State
  4. Kenny Wilekes, DE, Mighigan State
  5. Devin Duvarney, WR, Texas

Not a fan of this one. 

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21 hours ago, THE DUKE said:

This weeks iteration.  Not a fan of some of these choices, especially considering who was available.  Liskow fully buys into PFF devaluing linebacker.  Only way this works is if they hit G and LB in free agency with starter level guys, not "compete for a spot" guys, which even they acknowledged at the end of the podcast.

  1. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
  2. Antoine Winfield Jr, DB, Minnesota
  3. Cameron Dansler, CB, Mississippi State
  4. Kenny Wilekes, DE, Mighigan State
  5. Devin Duvarney, WR, Texas

I like the first two picks, but would prefer Winfield in a trade back.

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They talk about using Winfield as a hybrid safety and slot corner, allowing Shawn Williams to act as the nickle linebacker.

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I really like Cameron Dantzler, and Winfield.  Just hard to go DB with both picks on day two.  Strictly from a talent stand point, I wouldn't be upset.

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