Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: OK well if signing bonuses count I think half contract seems fair If they do half contract then they keep all of the years on their contract still starting next year and is next years pay half as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 For instance if I have an opt out on a 1 year 2k contract I pay 1k this year but still have him next year on the 1k contract for 1 year? @bcb1213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Explain to me like I'm 5, how Covid opt-outs would differ from injuries, suspensions, or time off otherwise? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Counselor said: If they do half contract then they keep all of the years on their contract still starting next year and is next years pay half as well? One thing at a time my friend. But any subsequent years would go back to normal. Just my opinion Edited July 30, 2020 by bcb1213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, bcb1213 said: One thing at a time my friend Well it would affect how I vote. I like to know the whole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bcb1213 said: OK well if signing bonuses count I think half contract seems fair A bigger fan of mirroring the NFL and having them count for $150 or $350 depending on the reason for opting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, MD4L said: A bigger fan of mirroring the NFL and having them count for $150 or $350 depending on the reason for opting out. But that also disregards the signing bonus part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: But that also disregards the signing bonus part 2 hours ago, Counselor said: For instance if I have an opt out on a 1 year 2k contract I pay 1k this year but still have him next year on the 1k contract for 1 year? @bcb1213 1 hour ago, RuskieTitan said: Explain to me like I'm 5, how Covid opt-outs would differ from injuries, suspensions, or time off otherwise? Anyone thinking of splitting a contract over multiple years is nuts. We're not doing that in any BDL year math is hard, either a full stopgap of they don't count against the cap but count $350 and their contract tolls to the next year. Or their contract stays the same and we just treat it like an injury. There's no decent middleground without unnecessary complications for how we handled contracts in the past and future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Xmad said: Anyone thinking of splitting a contract over multiple years is nuts. We're not doing that in any BDL year math is hard, either a full stopgap of they don't count against the cap but count $350 and their contract tolls to the next year. Or their contract stays the same and we just treat it like an injury. There's no decent middleground without unnecessary complications for how we handled contracts in the past and future. To be fair splitting in half also makes it easier to just double the next season record keeping wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Xmad said: Anyone thinking of splitting a contract over multiple years is nuts. We're not doing that in any BDL year math is hard, either a full stopgap of they don't count against the cap but count $350 and their contract tolls to the next year. Or their contract stays the same and we just treat it like an injury. There's no decent middleground without unnecessary complications for how we handled contracts in the past and future. So you aren’t quitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bcb1213 said: To be fair splitting in half also makes it easier to just double the next season record keeping wise. This was my thought as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, RuskieTitan said: Explain to me like I'm 5, how Covid opt-outs would differ from injuries, suspensions, or time off otherwise? Well. Brandon Brooks can't bring his torn achilles home and give his wife a torn achilles, then give that to her parents, and one of them dies from that torn achilles. Suspensions don't do that either. Those things are consequences of a players decision to get on the field and the team assumes that risk with them. We sign players, we assume that risk with them as well. This is a situation more unique than any I can remember where teams are letting players decide to not risk the health and lives of not only themselves, but their family members, to the point where they aren't being punished, get a little bonus for deciding not to play, and their contract picks up right back where it left the previous year when this is all hopefully done. To me, that's the difference. Whether a 5 year old would get that or not, I don't know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: But that also disregards the signing bonus part We don’t deal with that here so it’s more complicated talking guaranteed money into account. Technically all our BDL money is guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, Counselor said: So you aren’t quitting Oh I'm quitting I'm just gonna miss these BDL arugments. I've already found a successor to just waiting on him to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Xmad said: Oh I'm quitting I'm just gonna miss these BDL arugments. I've already found a successor to just waiting on him to confirm. If you quit I quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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