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Rams new DC: B Staley, Broncos OLB

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2 hours ago, BroncoBruin said:

Disappointed to not keep the entire defensive staff together, oh well. 

I'm a little surprised nobody has tried to hire Ed Donatell. 

So are a lot of 49ers fans. He was a fantastic DB coach when he was here for us and was a great communicator. 

I thought he would get a look in Chicago after Fangio left, but they went a different direction, and then it didn't appear that anyone else had interest in him, or that he botched other opportunities by focusing so much on the bears. 

He will get his shot. 

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2 hours ago, jrry32 said:

He's a Fangio guy. Coached OLBs with Chicago in 2017 and 2018. Moved to the Broncos with Vic. Before that, he was DC at some smaller colleges.

Was the best DC in DIII before he went to Chicago. Crap ton of coaching experience at a whole bunch of places in college but made his mark at John Carroll. Coached a year at James Madison than went back to JCU. 

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28 minutes ago, N4L said:

So are a lot of 49ers fans. He was a fantastic DB coach when he was here for us and was a great communicator. 

I thought he would get a look in Chicago after Fangio left, but they went a different direction, and then it didn't appear that anyone else had interest in him, or that he botched other opportunities by focusing so much on the bears. 

He will get his shot. 

He's 62 years old, and this is his fourth stint as a DC. I wouldn't be so certain of that.

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43 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

He's 62 years old, and this is his fourth stint as a DC. I wouldn't be so certain of that.

Oh, for some reason I thought he was in his early 40s

whoops

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Von did have his worst statistical year as a pro and no one else in the OLB room really stepped up when Chubb went down so..

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On 1/12/2020 at 6:58 AM, Twizlers said:

Von did have his worst statistical year as a pro and no one else in the OLB room really stepped up when Chubb went down so..

The Fangio style defense really needs two things to function at its best: Versatile players who are able to function in multiple roles (so that he's able to disguise as much pre-snap as possible; this is probably the biggest reason he was able to put McVay on his butt coaching-wise when his Chicago defense utterly dissected a rampaging Rams offense in 2018) and both ILB's being premium athletes (not just your traditional thumper-TED and cover-MIKE you see in most 3-4 alignments).  It wasn't just Chubbs injury that I think affected Von as much this season as it was some of those counting stats ending up in the column of the guy playing the 3-tech (which usually cleans up in Fangio's defense - that was Shelby Harris after Wolfe went down for you guys this season, wasn't it?) and Josey Jewell never having the necessary partner on the interior - because, let's face it, Todd Davis is a limited thumper at best.

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1 hour ago, The LBC said:

The Fangio style defense really needs two things to function at its best: Versatile players who are able to function in multiple roles (so that he's able to disguise as much pre-snap as possible; this is probably the biggest reason he was able to put McVay on his butt coaching-wise when his Chicago defense utterly dissected a rampaging Rams offense in 2018) and both ILB's being premium athletes (not just your traditional thumper-TED and cover-MIKE you see in most 3-4 alignments).  It wasn't just Chubbs injury that I think affected Von as much this season as it was some of those counting stats ending up in the column of the guy playing the 3-tech (which usually cleans up in Fangio's defense - that was Shelby Harris after Wolfe went down for you guys this season, wasn't it?) and Josey Jewell never having the necessary partner on the interior - because, let's face it, Todd Davis is a limited thumper at best.

Josey Jewell was benched after Week 4 and replaced by AJ Johnson. Big upgrade but they still need a better athlete next to him. 

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FWIW, the work he did in coaching up our OLB & ILB corps, Staley should get kudos for.   Jewell is a fit in a conventional 3-4 D, but a terrible fit in a Fangio D, as it calls for more sideline-to-sideline, dynamic play.  Jewell was drafted to be the Davis replacement and be a better pass cover guy than Davis was.   Alexander Johnson did a great job as the best ILB, and his pass cover weaknesses improved (although he's still not the alpha Fangio needs for the D to thrive).   

Attachou, Malik Reed & Justin Hollins all fit in better as OLB's than anyone could have imagined.   Even if Von's sack #'s went down, the unit's play in the 2H was impressive.   Staley didn't do the run stopping part of ILB work, but the ILB's improvements in pass rush and coverage, have to believe Staley had a hand in that.

I have no idea on his play call / adjustment abilities, but on talent development, Staley deserves a huge A+ for his 2019 work, and his prior body of work.  We'll miss that next year in DEN for sure.

One other comment - apparently McVay wanted a guy who would be more flexible in adapting the D in-game, and change the way the D played, instead of trying to simply beat guys straight up (what Wade believed in).   The changes DEN made in-season suggest that Donatell & Staley really followed the latter philosophy.  Maybe it was all Donatell, but that probably factored in.

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