VigilantZombie Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 MVP is an individual achievement award; meaning only one guy needs to do well to earn it Winning the Super Bowl is an organizational award; meaning from Ownership and Front office to the coaches, roster, and waterboy everyone has to do their job be earn the Lombari. Individual awards dont mean a dang thing in the SB, nobody cares what you did yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) On 1/13/2020 at 10:30 AM, Calamity_Cometh said: Teams heavily dependent on one player are not well balanced. I think this is true in some cases. 2000 Rams, 2003/2004 Colts, 2011 Packers, 2012 Vikings, etc. But teams like the 2001 Rams, 2006 Chargers, 2007 Patriots, 2010 Patriots, 2015 Panthers were all pretty stacked rosters that just either got unlucky or had a bad game in the playoffs. I think that the team with the MVP going 20 years without a SB title is just a bit of an outlier. If you flip a coin 1000 times you will have a few series of 10+ heads or tails in a row. Edited January 15, 2020 by Bolts223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 There are 32 teams in the league and only one of them wins the Super Bowl per year. That's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) On 1/14/2020 at 7:18 PM, wwhickok said: MVP is an individual achievement award; meaning only one guy needs to do well to earn it Winning the Super Bowl is an organizational award; meaning from Ownership and Front office to the coaches, roster, and waterboy everyone has to do their job be earn the Lombari. Individual awards dont mean a dang thing in the SB, nobody cares what you did yesterday. The Super Bowl is what everybody plays the game for. I don't think it says much for a player to want to be MVP over winning the Super Bowl. There's still a lot of NFL players out there who think this way. Edited January 16, 2020 by RamblinMan99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 6:55 PM, Coffee & Contemplation said: The first team All Pro selection QB or RB is pretty much always the MVP. I'm pretty sure it's even the same voters who vote for both awards. In fact, every time Peyton won the MVP he was also a first team All Pro selection. I'm talking about multiple first team All-Pro selections across multiple years. You're right that the MVP award is mostly biased towards offensive players, and that's exactly why All Pro selections mean more. It says a lot more when a player (either offensive or defensive) has more All-Pro selections than the offensive player who has won MVP at least once. You mentioned Peyton Manning. Manning was selected to the All Pro first team 7 times after 18 years. Aaron Donald was in serious consideration for MVP last year, but he has already been selected as a first team All Pro 5 consecutive years (even Manning didn't achieve that) . So no, MVP and All Pro first team are not the same thing. Not by any means. MVP is a popularity award leaned towards offensive players and the All Pro team actually reflects the players who are arguably the best at their respective positions each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 14 of the last 26 went to the Super Bowl. That's actually a lot. The years in BOLD the MVP played in the Super Bowl. In 1993 Smith was MVP and won the Super Bowl In 1994 Young was the MVP and won the Super Bowl In 1995 Favre could not stop the Cowboys yet with the Deion Sanders power up. In 1996 Favre was MVP and won the Super Bowl In 1997 Sanders it was Lions gonna Lions In 1998 Davis was the MVP and won the Super Bowl In 1999 Warner was the MVP and won the Super Bowl In 2000 Warner got mangled and limped back to lose a weird wildcard game (Faulk MVP) In 2001 MVP Faulk actually won the Super Bowl on Earth 471 (which is the same alternate reality where the Patriots taped walkthroughs) In 2002 Gannon had to run his exact same offense against a team coached by the guy who installed the offense 2003, '04, '08, '09 Manning are self-explanatory In 2005 (Alexander) it was either the refs or a fool WR pretending to push off getting called for pushing off. Add in a dash of sweet WR option pass TD. 2006 Tomlinson it was not enough play-making and too much crying about disrespect. In 2007 it was a bleepin' helmet catch. In 2010 Brady and 2011 Rodgers they were both 14-2/15-1 team choke jobs In 2012 Peterson was a RB on the 10th best team in the league (by record) In 2013 Manning it was the Legion of Boom In 2014 Rodgers it was a game so wacky that the officials forgot to bring the footballs to the field for the next game because they were too busy watching the earlier game. In 2015 Newton it was because he is so sensitive and the scary men were near the football. In 2016 it was because the real MVP was accused of heresy and witchcraft. The actual award winner was up 28-3 in the Super Bowl. In 2017 it was because of this: In 2018 it was because Dee Ford could not position himself properly in relation to the football. In 2019 it was because of this: and also a 14-2 team choke job Edited January 16, 2020 by SkippyX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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