Matts4313 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: I could block JJ Watt, 1v1. ...just not successfully. @Matts4313 do you have video? Article doesn’t clarify if they’re runs/passes. 1v1 blocking on an outside handoff to the opposite side is sort of irrelevant, so, context? No, I just looked and cant find anything. Which I guess is not strange as who looks for 5 year old TE blocking highlights. The play he ragdolled Watt was for sure a pass play. He tossed him like a child. I only remember it because us Cowboys fans used it as an example of why he was more important than Gates, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Gates by a million miles. Witten was a product of Romo. Witten runs the same 40 now he did 10 years ago. I’ve seen both. And in their primes Gates was an absolute playmaking weapon and a stud. For years Rivers had some crap at WR and yet he balled because of Gates.. Gates was so damm good, an insane red zone weapon. Witten is nothing special. No speed.. He’s what a healthy Jeremy Shokey should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Wow i thought this was gonna be kinda close because FF can be wacky like that. But this poll is as lopsided as ive seen. Im sure it will balance out more. But faith has been restored. Witten was very good a reliable. But Gates was an absolute game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piquel Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 2:36 PM, Matts4313 said: Witten 1 on 1 blocked prime Watt. Something virtually no OL could do. I would think you of all people would respect that feat. Jamal Charles pancaked prime Watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 5:38 PM, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: Gates by a million miles. Witten was a product of Romo. Witten runs the same 40 now he did 10 years ago. I’ve seen both. And in their primes Gates was an absolute playmaking weapon and a stud. For years Rivers had some crap at WR and yet he balled because of Gates.. Gates was so damm good, an insane red zone weapon. Witten is nothing special. No speed.. He’s what a healthy Jeremy Shokey should have been. I think your memory is slipping. Big time. Rivers worked for like one year with Parker then got Jackson who was an absolute physical specimen and redzone terror. To pair not only with Gates but also LT. And I believe two years after they got Jackson they picked up Floyd too. SD was stacked with talent. And your telling me Witten was the product of Romo. Yet Gates was not the product of Brees and Rivers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 3:22 PM, Matts4313 said: No, I just looked and cant find anything. Which I guess is not strange as who looks for 5 year old TE blocking highlights. The play he ragdolled Watt was for sure a pass play. He tossed him like a child. I only remember it because us Cowboys fans used it as an example of why he was more important than Gates, lol It don’t matter.. The rams Jeff Fisher rams blew the doors out that scrub by 40 and they were the first team in his prime that gave him a donut for a stat sheet. There’s no way in hell Witten could block him 1/1.. Must of been a quick screen play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: I think your memory is slipping. Big time. Rivers worked for like one year with Parker then got Jackson who was an absolute physical specimen and redzone terror. To pair not only with Gates but also LT. And I believe two years after they got Jackson they picked up Floyd too. SD was stacked with talent. And your telling me Witten was the product of Romo. Yet Gates was not the product of Brees and Rivers? I remember they had Keenan Mcardell and some little white dude. Both at their tail ends of their careers. Jackson came in a bit later IIRC. It was when they had a bad Chris Chambers who was a beast in mia.. Edited January 19, 2020 by ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: I think your memory is slipping. Big time. Rivers worked for like one year with Parker then got Jackson who was an absolute physical specimen and redzone terror. To pair not only with Gates but also LT. And I believe two years after they got Jackson they picked up Floyd too. SD was stacked with talent. And your telling me Witten was the product of Romo. Yet Gates was not the product of Brees and Rivers? Just checked and yup. Got damm my memory is sharp AF. Without checking it was 05.. It took Jackson 3 years to get to that level.. Man im good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: It don’t matter.. The rams Jeff Fisher rams blew the doors out that scrub by 40 and they were the first team in his prime that gave him a donut for a stat sheet. There’s no way in hell Witten could block him 1/1.. Must of been a quick screen play. Well, you are wrong. Because Witten did it. 3 minutes ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: I remember they had Keenan Mcardell and some little white dude. Both at their tail ends of their careers. Jackson came in a bit later IIRC. lmao. SD was considered the most talented team in the NFL for several years. GTHO with this revisionist history crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 without question its gates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Well, you are wrong. Because Witten did it. lmao. SD was considered the most talented team in the NFL for several years. GTHO with this revisionist history crap. From 05 when Jackson came. Those were the WR. It was Gates as the main option. Jackson didn’t blossom Till 08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: From 05 when Jackson came. Those were the WR. It was Gates as the main option. Jackson didn’t blossom Till 08 So Gates played 2 years w/o an all pro WR on the roster, but with a HOF QB, #1 OL in the NFL and a HOF RB. Got it. smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: So Gates played 2 years w/o an all pro WR on the roster, but with a HOF QB, #1 OL in the NFL and a HOF RB. Got it. smh Bro whatever even Calvert agreed. It’s gates what are you arguing here? Gates is the superior talent. Witten was solid at everything not special In any real category. Gates was the main receiver for an early Rivers. Those are facts. Are you going to tell me in 05 Rivers had elite options at WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2007.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2006.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2005.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2004.htm From 04 to 07.. Gates was the only main WR they had. Put up phenomenal stats. Jesus Christ what a freak you are Matt’s. Heck even in 04.. annoying af. Still led the team in catches in 08. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2008.htm and again in 09.. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2009.htm Gates was the main reviving option. What the hell are you arguing. even in 10.. When everyone was hurt. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2010.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said: Bro whatever even Calvert agreed. It’s gates what are you arguing here? Gates is the superior talent. Witten was solid at everything not special In any real category. Gates was the main receiver for an early Rivers. Those are facts. Are you going to tell me in 05 Rivers had elite options at WR? Im arguing with your ridiculous notion that "Romo made Witten" while ignoring Gates played his entire career with HOF QBs and Witten has played 0 snaps with a HOF QB. You using "well for 2 out of Gate's 20 year career the WRs sucked" is a pretty terrible argument. Gates had a higher peak. Witten had the better career. Also, Witten was the best blocking TE in the NFL almost every year that Gronk didnt play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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