Soko Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnarok said: I don't think anyone(I hope) is just suggesting you man him up on Kittle all game with no help. That never works. Do I think he could do it at times during the game? Absolutely. No chance in hell he could do it all game. No defensive player could. If you tried to ask Gilmore to cover a top 3 WR in man all game with no help, he'd get burned eventually. I didn’t say with no help, just covering him in man for a majority of the game. And maybe no one, verbatim, said all game, but it’s not a matchup I think is favorable for Simmons. Or most players in the league. 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: Kittle isn't a slot WR. Simmons's skill-set is a great match for Kittle's. Never said he was. But I don’t think putting Simmons in man on a consistent basis against Kittle, other elite receiving tight ends, or many slot receivers, is a matchup that is favorable for Simmons. We’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Never said he was. But I don’t think putting Simmons in man on a consistent basis against Kittle, other elite receiving tight ends, or many slot receivers, is a matchup that is favorable for Simmons. We’ll see. That's exactly why you draft him. He's a TE eraser. The guy cannot handle slot WRs. That's not his job. But he is the type of talent who can erase the game's best TEs. He has the size, speed, and length to disrupt their games. He's too leggy to stick with slot WRs, but he doesn't have that issue against TEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: That's exactly why you draft him. He's a TE eraser. The guy cannot handle slot WRs. That's not his job. But he is the type of talent who can erase the game's best TEs. He has the size, speed, and length to disrupt their games. He's too leggy to stick with slot WRs, but he doesn't have that issue against TEs. Don’t agree that he’s going to be an eraser for Kittle, but we’ll see. There’s a lot more to it than size, speed, and length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Don’t agree that he’s going to be an eraser for Kittle, but we’ll see. There’s a lot more to it than size, speed, and length. It's hard to erase any superstar, but if he can keep him in check, he's doing his job. And yes, I am aware there's more to it than that. But nobody doubts his ability to cover big guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) I see no reason why Simmons can’t be at least a WLB. The ability is there. I think the issue people have with Simmons’ versatility is the feeling that if you plug him in one position you’re not getting the most out of him. You’re sort of limiting him. Simmons can definitely be a difference maker at LB Edited April 30, 2020 by Kip Smithers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 When was the last time a rookie OLB shutdown a great TE? Maybe Lawrence Taylor did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 6:50 PM, Uncle Buck said: It hit me about halfway through the 6th round. I have decided I like the draft even better than the playoffs. Makes sense, considering you are a Vikings fan (Sorry I couldn't resist) On 4/29/2020 at 8:05 PM, jrry32 said: That's exactly why you draft him. He's a TE eraser. The guy cannot handle slot WRs. That's not his job. But he is the type of talent who can erase the game's best TEs. He has the size, speed, and length to disrupt their games. He's too leggy to stick with slot WRs, but he doesn't have that issue against TEs. Sadly, I agree with you and @Fullback I said it in the niners forum, Arizona was historically bad at covering TEs. That's what they are going to have him do. My solution was to run right at him and let kittle/juicecheck, mcglinchey, Trent Williams etc get their hands on him. That defense still has a lot of holes but Simmons is a centerpiece. Pp, Jones, Simmons - they have elite talent at every level now I blame the Texans/BOB for Simmons going to Arizona. You don't trade away Hopkins to a team with the 8th overall pick without it being included in the package I know kittle welcomes the challenge. Bring it on, rookie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techbert Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 8:06 AM, max said: When was the last time a rookie OLB shutdown a great TE? Maybe Lawrence Taylor did it. Taylor could cover, but his pass effectiveness was in order... 1. Sacking 2. Arms up in pass rush and batting down passes 3. Dropping running backs on swing passes 4. Disrupting tight end routes by knocking the hell out of them 5. Staying with a receiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 8:06 AM, max said: When was the last time a rookie OLB shutdown a great TE? Maybe Lawrence Taylor did it. Fun fact: Joe Gibbs creates the “single back offense” to occupy LT coming off the edge in blitz pickup/swinging out to make him peel. He never really had to/was asked to cover a TE in the seam, albeit he could have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyronnosaurus Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Very random question. Who is the best OL from the draft out of Wills, Bekton, and Wirfs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 hours ago, Tyronnosaurus said: Very random question. Who is the best OL from the draft out of Wills, Bekton, and Wirfs? My opinion: Thomas Wirfs Becton Wills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, THE DUKE said: My opinion: Thomas Wirfs Becton Wills I'd agree with this order. However, they're all very different prospects. If Becton develops his pass blocking, he'll be the best one of the class. Wirfs is a better RT or OG prospect, and if he moved to the interior, he's probably immediately one of the league's best. Wills is athletic, but not as athletic as Wirfs or Becton, and pretty polished, but not as polished as Thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Out of curiosity how has Isaiah Simmons looked so far this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 6:45 PM, mattyice0401 said: Out of curiosity how has Isaiah Simmons looked so far this year? Devon Kennard, Budda Baker, Jalen Thompson and Chris Banjo have all missed time and he’s still not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 9:28 AM, THE DUKE said: My opinion: Thomas Wirfs Becton Wills Becton has been out for a few weeks. But the 1st couple weeks when he was healthy he was a freak. He should be back this next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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