NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Unless Zabit gets a fight and looks good really soon, who else gets the shot? They should do Zabit vs Ortega for the #1 contender spot. But realistically you're right, Ortega probably gets the next shot unless Cejudo comes out of retirement to fight Volk which is something both he and his coaches have hinted at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: They should do Zabit vs Ortega for the #1 contender spot. But realistically you're right, Ortega probably gets the next shot unless Cejudo comes out of retirement to fight Volk which is something both he and his coaches have hinted at. I agree Ortega getting 1 win in 2 years is a big deal but you cant just keep Volk on the shelf either. However, if they do Volk vs CCC, Ortega vs Zabit makes all the sense in the world Ortega didnt just win though, he dominated KZ and on the feet too. I feel like that should be taken into consideration. Ortega's resume is definitely better than Zabit's too. Zabit has Kattar while Ortega has KZ, Edgar, Swanson and Renato all of which are better than Zabit's #2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 How can they let Dustin and Conor do the #1 contender fight at 170? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: I agree Ortega getting 1 win in 2 years is a big deal but you cant just keep Volk on the shelf either. However, if they do Volk vs CCC, Ortega vs Zabit makes all the sense in the world Ortega didnt just win though, he dominated KZ and on the feet too. I feel like that should be taken into consideration. Ortega's resume is definitely better than Zabit's too. Zabit has Kattar while Ortega has KZ, Edgar, Swanson and Renato all of which are better than Zabit's #2 I agree. If they're going to schedule a fight for Volk soon it has to be either Ortega or Cejudo. If they're going to do Cejudo it would make a ton of sense to have Ortega vs Zabit as the co-main so Ortega could step in if someone gets hurt. Ortega definitely has a better resume, is ranked higher, more popular, and has already fought for the title before so giving him a title shot makes sense. Especially after how dominant he was against KZ. The Cejudo fight makes sense as well but I think it'd be another GSP situation where he comes out of retirement with zero plans to defend the belt. So he'd probably vacate the title shortly after winning it and put the division in a bad spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said: How can they let Dustin and Conor do the #1 contender fight at 170? Yeah, Conor's obsession with fighting at 170 is weird to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Yeah, Conor's obsession with fighting at 170 is weird to me. Doesn't want to embrace the grind in cutting weight? Odd for someone who used to make 145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: Doesn't want to embrace the grind in cutting weight? Odd for someone who used to make 145 Who knows. My theory is that he wants to avoid a weight cut because if he wins while taking minimum damage he'd be able to fight Khabib almost immediately. The fight is supposed to happen in January so he'd be able to fight Khabib in March/April before he takes his yearly break for ramadan. Getting used to fighting at 170 also puts him in position for a potential super fight against Masvidal in the future. Edited October 20, 2020 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 McGregor has also put on a ton of mass so that plays a part in why he wants 170. Unless it's a Khabib rematch, he's never going back to 155. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: Doesn't want to embrace the grind in cutting weight? Odd for someone who used to make 145 Those were the days. Nothing like a good ole crackhead conor weigh in, press conference, and fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: McGregor has also put on a ton of mass so that plays a part in why he wants 170. Unless it's a Khabib rematch, he's never going back to 155. That's true. Both fights against Nate he wasn't even 170. Pretty sure he just trained without cutting weight for those fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: Doesn't want to embrace the grind in cutting weight? Odd for someone who used to make 145 cutting weight sucks, and for someone who likely is worth north of 150 mil, why do it?i it seems like he honestly feels cutting weight isnt safe (which doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out) so he pushes to not do it when he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) @FinneasGage @JonStark @JaguarCrazy2832 @NYRaider @11sanchez11 @Buckrock101 @big poppa pump @Big Snack @BullsandBroncos and anyone else that wants in...I'm going to start running a pick'em again. You guys know how it works. I'll list either the main card fights or what I deem the 5 best fights on an upcoming card and you'll put your confidence points on them. You lose/win what you wager. So if you put 5 on Khabib and Gaethje wins, you lose 5 points. Let's get it UFC 254 Pick'em Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Justin Gaethje Robert Whittaker vs Jared Cannonier Alexander Volkov vs Walt Harris Magomed Ankalaev vs Ion Cutelaba Stefan Struve vs Tai Tuivasa Edited October 20, 2020 by beekay414 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, GSUeagles14 said: cutting weight sucks, and for someone who likely is worth north of 150 mil, why do it?i it seems like he honestly feels cutting weight isnt safe (which doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out) so he pushes to not do it when he can. 155 isn't as drastic for him as it is others. Look at Poirier and Khabib. Chiesa when he made 155. You're not wrong though. This is just an outside opinion on it. Power to him I guess but if they fight at 170 and he gets a title shot, it shows to the rest of the division that making weight doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, beekay414 said: UFC 254 Pick'emKhabib Nurmagomedov vs Justin Gaethje - 5 points Robert Whittaker vs Jared Cannonier - 4 points Alexander Volkov vs Walt Harris - 2 points Magomed Ankalaev vs Ion Cutelaba - 3 points Stefan Struve vs Tai Tuivasa - 1 point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said: 155 isn't as drastic for him as it is others. Look at Poirier and Khabib. Chiesa when he made 155. You're not wrong though. This is just an outside opinion on it. Power to him I guess but if they fight at 170 and he gets a title shot, it shows to the rest of the division that making weight doesn't matter. It isn't but again, I think not having to cut weight in January puts him in position for a quick turn around in March/April for the Khabib rematch. Who else would they give the title shot too? Ferguson is coming off of a loss and in the last 3 years his only two wins are against Donald Cerrone/Anthony Pettis. Hooker is coming off of a loss and his most impressive UFC win is a split decision over Paul Felder. It shows the division that if you want a title shot you need to beat the #1 contender. Hooker had a chance to get into contention but lost to Poirier. Ferguson has had multiple chances but refused to fight Poirier for the interim title, lost to Gathje, and then couldn't come to terms for the Poirier bout at UFC 254. How did Poirier get the Khabib fight? By smashing Holloway for the interim belt. How did Gathje get the Khabib fight? By smashing Ferguson for the interim belt. Poirier is 5-1 in his last 6 with wins over Gathje, Alvarez, Hooker, Holloway, and Pettis. If Conor beats him in impressive fashion he deserves a title shot and there's no way you can give it to someone like Tony or Hooker over him when they're both coming off of losses. Edited October 20, 2020 by NYRaider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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