deltarich87 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 What if Pettine is just Dom Capers but without the toupee. Makes you think 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, deltarich87 said: What if Pettine is just Dom Capers but without the toupee. Makes you think He is though. No he’s not. Capers would actually blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jaire_Island Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Golfman said: I'd take somebody on the 9ers staff too. There are a lot of young, talented coaches out there. I think that is the thing, get somebody young and aggressive. Some one saw this coming. Browns hiring 49ers D back coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Not to be knee jerk but this game was enough to to consider moving on from Pettine. We might need more talent at spots but you don’t see simple things like having a head for every gap missing in nfl games. We were out of position so much and that’s like 80-20 coaching-talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackGymRat Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) I’m going to explain to you the problem that has plagued this Defense since 2008......it’s not good. I know ground breaking, but hear me out. The old Packers Teams could rely on a heavy weapons filled offense to straight overwhelm teams in the regular season and mask their crappy D. Except only to run into tough defenses and good coaches and get bulldozed in the playoffs on both sides of the ball. This year was the samething except with a crappy offense. This defense managed to squeak out games but NEVER put anyone away or put together 4 Quarters of solid play. However, when you finally get to the playoffs it’s a whole different ballgame and once again this defense got bulldozed and offense got bamboozeled like they usually do. Same problem every year. This defense and offense are just NOT ELITE enough for the playoffs against championship caliber teams. I mean when you have to win your last season game of the season on a last second FG against the lowly Lions, do you even deserve to be in the same sentence as 49ers or Chiefs? This was the crappiest 13-3 team I have ever seen. Defense had the two Smiths and offense had Jones and Adams. Literally no one else was memorable even Aaron. Compare that to the stacked rosters of Chiefs and 49ers. Packers have spent two decades being the doormat of teams headed to the SuperBowl. Since 2000 under 3 coaches (Sherman, MM, and now LaFleur) we have probably made the playoffs the most of any other team in the NFC in those years and we have 1 championship to show for it. Edited January 20, 2020 by PackGymRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) People here talking about average DVOA.... I think we've had enough defenses that have an average DVOA and then give literal records in the post season. Last night is the third highest rushing yardage game in the playoffs since 2000, the first being also Green Bay vs San Francisco (I don't even need to tell you which game, right?). It was also the second highest rushing performance by a single player in the playoffs EVER, the first being a game in 1986. Frankly, after this game, we could be #1 in regular season DVOA and I wouldn't give a ****. Last night was absolutely inexcusable as a DC. EDIT: sources (last night is not updated yet but you can check 285 total yardage or 220 single rusher yardage and see where they place) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=2000&year_max=2019&game_type=P&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&temperature_gtlt=lt&c1stat=rush_yds_opp&c1comp=gte&c1val=250&c5val=1.0&order_by=pass_td https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=1950&year_max=2019&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos[]=QB&pos[]=WR&pos[]=RB&pos[]=TE&pos[]=OL&pos[]=DL&pos[]=LB&pos[]=DB&is_starter=E&game_type=P&career_game_num_min=1&career_game_num_max=400&qb_start_num_min=1&qb_start_num_max=400&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&c1stat=rush_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=150&c5val=1.0&order_by=pass_td Edited January 20, 2020 by Packer_ESP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Packer_ESP said: Frankly, after this game, we could be #1 in regular season DVOA and I wouldn't give a ****. Last night was absolutely inexcusable as a DC. I agree. It seems like the defense was acceptable at times in spite of Pettine, not because of him this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 If we bring Blake back it better be for the minimum and as a backup. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I didn't specifically see a coordinator problem I saw a DL and ILB group get mauled. Other than Clark, the other interior players were just getting consistently blown out of their gaps. I see this as highlighting the need for DL and ILB rather than a damning indictment of Pettine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox_NFLs_GG Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Pettine is doing the same thing that the 49ers are doing but without the talent on DB and ILB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, spilltray said: I didn't specifically see a coordinator problem I saw a DL and ILB group get mauled. Other than Clark, the other interior players were just getting consistently blown out of their gaps. I see this as highlighting the need for DL and ILB rather than a damning indictment of Pettine. All-22 isn't up yet so I'm just watching the TV feed, but let's not leave the DBs out of this. Jaire, Tramon, Amos, and Savage in particular were all targeted in the run game in the first half. All regularly flunked the test. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fox_NFLs_GG said: Pettine is doing the same thing that the 49ers are doing but without the talent on DB and ILB. In the divisional game we played 5.1 DBs, 1.3 ILBs, 2.3 Edge, 2.3 DL against 2.7 WRs, 1.0 TEs, 1.0 RBs, and 5.3 OL In the divisional game the 49ers played 4.61 DBs, 2.39 ILBs, 2.22 DL, 1.78 Edge against 2.5 WRs, 1.5 TEs, 1.0 RBs, and 5 OL We aren't doing anything close to the same thing defensively. Not even in the ballpark. Not from a personnel perspective, not from a scheme perspective, not from a coverage perspective, not even from a rush perspective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 hours ago, incognito_man said: Especially on the sidelines, with the headset... professor plum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: In the divisional game we played 5.1 DBs, 1.3 ILBs, 2.3 Edge, 2.3 DL against 2.7 WRs, 1.0 TEs, 1.0 RBs, and 5.3 OL In the divisional game the 49ers played 4.61 DBs, 2.39 ILBs, 2.22 DL, 1.78 Edge against 2.5 WRs, 1.5 TEs, 1.0 RBs, and 5 OL We aren't doing anything close to the same thing defensively. Not even in the ballpark. Not from a personnel perspective, not from a scheme perspective, not from a coverage perspective, not even from a rush perspective. did they really average 1 RB? Thought Juscyzyk played a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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