renndawg37 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, ttitansfan4life said: Smith is a free agent as well... Ah. Didn't realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 whats the scoop on this cat. Never heard of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans fan 617 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Roby Coleman is going to Phi, thought he would have been a candidate if Ryan leaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: whats the scoop on this cat. Never heard of him Great depth. Can start in spots. He’s average in the grand scheme of things but you can do a lot worse. I’ll miss him here, I thought he played well for what his role was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said: whats the scoop on this cat. Never heard of him Flashed at moments of being a 4th corner. Wouldn't expect anything other than depth and special teams play. Could start for a game or two, but after that you playing with fire and he will get burned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Robinson must’ve really not wanted him back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Titans fan 617 said: Roby Coleman is going to Phi, thought he would have been a candidate if Ryan leaves Logan isn’t getting anything more than $5 or 6 million per. And even that might be high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, titans0021 said: Logan isn’t getting anything more than $5 or 6 million per. And even that might be high. It's like Adam Schefter said regarding Clowney, if you're still a free agent at this poiny, you're more than likely not going to get the number you were looking for. Between him still being a free agent and the contracts we're seeing from other slot corners, Ryan isn't going to get that +10 mil. contract he was looking for. Hopefully that means it's a good chance he resigns with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I can see his point. I would have no problem bringing Ryan back as I've mentioned previously (not at 10m tho, I like him in the 7.5m range) and going after Golden....which if this account is legit might end up being the case... Which would you guys prefer? Ryan+Golden or Clowney? And for the sake of discussion let's just assume both of these options would about do it for us in free agency (minus some cheap depth signings). I'm leaning Ryan+Golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Rather we sign Amukamara & kick butler in the slot or Adoree depending on the slot WR.. Amukamara was very solid for the bears... he can cover & is good playing press as well as zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I think bringing Ryan back and Butler returning healthy would re-establish our secondary as an elite unit. Replacing Correa and Wake for Beasley and Golden would also be a great boost to our pretty weak EDGE unit that really only has Landry worth mentioning. Roberson did flash a bit so hopefully he can develop his game. As for the d-line, losing Casey obviously sucks but hopefully Jones can keep up his play and with Simmons developing over the offseason it can somewhat offset that loss. I think we'll need better depth besides Mack and Dickerson so maybe we'll look to the draft to sure it up. ILB's don't even need discussed as Evans and Brown are very good and Long looked impressive in the playoffs. All in all, I think adding Ryan and Golden would be what's best for our defense as a whole. We can go BPA on defense as well as BPA on offense in the draft since we already know who'll be getting the go at every single position. Honestly our biggest hurdle this year is going to be overcoming the loss of Pees and Coombs. Vrabel's already been hella impressive but we're really about to see what he's made of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, dtait93 said: I think bringing Ryan back and Butler returning healthy would re-establish our secondary as an elite unit. Replacing Correa and Wake for Beasley and Golden would also be a great boost to our pretty weak EDGE unit that really only has Landry worth mentioning. Roberson did flash a bit so hopefully he can develop his game. As for the d-line, losing Casey obviously sucks but hopefully Jones can keep up his play and with Simmons developing over the offseason it can somewhat offset that loss. I think we'll need better depth besides Mack and Dickerson so maybe we'll look to the draft to sure it up. ILB's don't even need discussed as Evans and Brown are very good and Long looked impressive in the playoffs. All in all, I think adding Ryan and Golden would be what's best for our defense as a whole. We can go BPA on defense as well as BPA on offense in the draft since we already know who'll be getting the go at every single position. Honestly our biggest hurdle this year is going to be overcoming the loss of Pees and Coombs. Vrabel's already been hella impressive but we're really about to see what he's made of now. Our secondary was never elite though. If you ask me our secondary was very solid but far from elite. We had early success due to the fact we played a bunch of young QB’s early on who pees could fool with disguising coverage. We play far too much zone & if there’s no pressure & we’re playing a seasoned QB, we get picked a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, TitanRedd said: Our secondary was never elite though. If you ask me our secondary was very solid but far from elite. We had early success due to the fact we played a bunch of young QB’s early on who pees could fool with disguising coverage. We play far too much zone & if there’s no pressure & we’re playing a seasoned QB, we get picked a part. We were ranked 6th in passing yards allowed per game, 9th in completion percentage allowed, and 8th in QB rating allowed in 2018. The only other secondaries to finish top 10 in all 3 of those categories that year was Chicago, Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Baltimore...and we were right there in their company. Even though the competition wasn't strong in the beginning of 2019 before Butler went down we can look at 2018 to prove that it wasn't a fluke. The Vacarro/Byard tandem and Butler/Jackson/Ryan trio can definitely be elite and I still think we should add a CB in the 1st to replace Butler next year. It would be even better if that were to happen. Edited March 26, 2020 by dtait93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, dtait93 said: We were ranked 6th in passing yards allowed per game, 9th in completion percentage allowed, and 8th in QB rating allowed in 2018. The only other secondaries to finish top 10 in all 3 of those categories that year was Chicago, Minnesota, Jacksonville, and Baltimore...and we were right there in their company. Even though the competition wasn't strong in the beginning of 2019 before Butler went down we can look at 2018 to prove that it wasn't a fluke. The Vacarro/Byard tandem and Butler/Jackson/Ryan trio can definitely be elite and I still think we should add a CB in the 1st to replace Butler next year. It would be even better if that were to happen. Again I know we were ranked top 10 but look how our secondary play against prolific passing offense vs good QB’s. our secondary is bend but don’t break zone heavy cover 3 & 2. I do hope we drafts butler replacement this year, but my opinion we need speed in the secondary & guys that can bump & run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 hours ago, dtait93 said: Which would you guys prefer? Ryan+Golden or Clowney? And for the sake of discussion let's just assume both of these options would about do it for us in free agency (minus some cheap depth signings). I'm leaning Ryan+Golden. Golden and Ryan and it's not even close. If we signed those two, our biggest individual needs would be DT, second RB, and backup QB. We'd need depth in a couple of places, but that would free us up to take almost any good player that fell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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