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Sounds like the small school safeties Duggar and Chinn are impressing. Jonah Jackson has been stone walking everything. Nick Harris has been having a tough time, might not be the best showcase for him.

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12 hours ago, MagicMT said:

It certainly seems possible. Both are elite/top 5 prospects for me. 

I love Kinlaw and Brown, but I don't know if I put them above Burrow, Young, Okudah, Simmons, or Tua (if healthy).  I can definitely see both top 10 though.

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15 hours ago, Danger said:

Now I just hope people ignore David Woodward

I won't be shocked if Woodward ends up in rd 2 in the end if he tests well at the combine.  A good senior bowl and combine is really going to vault him up draft boards since his excellent film against inferior competition will be backed up when compared against high level talent.  He's a guy that I wanted the Bengals to target at the top of rd 4, and now i'm worried he won't be there at the top of rd 3.

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18 minutes ago, THE DUKE said:

I won't be shocked if Woodward ends up in rd 2 in the end if he tests well at the combine.  A good senior bowl and combine is really going to vault him up draft boards since his excellent film against inferior competition will be backed up when compared against high level talent.  He's a guy that I wanted the Bengals to target at the top of rd 4, and now i'm worried he won't be there at the top of rd 3.

Is he at the Senior Bowl? He isn’t a Senior

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4 minutes ago, Counselor said:

Is he at the Senior Bowl? He isn’t a Senior

Yeah, not sure who I was mixing him up with.  I saw some sort of update about a LB impressing there last night.

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1 hour ago, Counselor said:

Is he at the Senior Bowl? He isn’t a Senior

Could of been if he was healthy, their is a couple of redshirt juniors there now like Matt Hennessy,   Lloyd Cushenberry, Quartney Davis, Jordan Love etc

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2 hours ago, THE DUKE said:

I won't be shocked if Woodward ends up in rd 2 in the end if he tests well at the combine.  A good senior bowl and combine is really going to vault him up draft boards since his excellent film against inferior competition will be backed up when compared against high level talent.  He's a guy that I wanted the Bengals to target at the top of rd 4, and now i'm worried he won't be there at the top of rd 3.

IMO, Woodward and Baun are the two best ILBs available outside of the first round. They're both three-down players. 

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19 hours ago, goldfishwars said:

 

Hearing that from Nick Falato as well. He's showing out.

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12 minutes ago, minutemancl said:

Hearing that from Nick Falato as well. He's showing out.

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“I just get the job done,” Jones said of his pass protection. “This year I let up four pressures… and a half a sack. I’m dominant at it. I take pride in it. If I give up a pressure, if I’m even close to (giving up) a sack, I’m kicking myself in the butt. It’s just pride. I feel like every O-lineman has that pride... Everybody can line up and play offensive line, but it’s a different mindset (to be elite). It’s a battle every single play, every single time you’re to war. You have to be on your Ps and Qs every single time. You can’t slip up. You have to be dominant.”

 

 

He's going to cement himself as a 1st rounder after this week. Not many guys out there who have his movement skills, athleticism, size, etc. and on the surface he's saying all the right things. He's the most pure modern LT this draft has to offer. Jeremiah left him out of his initial top 50, but I think he'll be a fixture in his top 40 after this week. When you factor in the price to pay for a premium position, very likely he goes top 20. 

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2 hours ago, jetskid007 said:

 

He's going to cement himself as a 1st rounder after this week. Not many guys out there who have his movement skills, athleticism, size, etc. and on the surface he's saying all the right things. He's the most pure modern LT this draft has to offer. Jeremiah left him out of his initial top 50, but I think he'll be a fixture in his top 40 after this week. When you factor in the price to pay for a premium position, very likely he goes top 20. 

Good movement skills but needs more punch and anchor.

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45 minutes ago, jetskid007 said:

“I just get the job done,” Jones said of his pass protection. “This year I let up four pressures… and a half a sack. I’m dominant at it. I take pride in it. If I give up a pressure, if I’m even close to (giving up) a sack, I’m kicking myself in the butt. It’s just pride. I feel like every O-lineman has that pride... Everybody can line up and play offensive line, but it’s a different mindset (to be elite). It’s a battle every single play, every single time you’re to war. You have to be on your Ps and Qs every single time. You can’t slip up. You have to be dominant.”

I love that mentality. Great response.

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So based on what I've seen and heard:

These are the guys who seem to have the impressed the most:-

Javon Kinlaw - South Carolina - Defensive tackles
Joshua Uche - Michigan - Edge rushers
Matt Hennessy - Temple - Guards/centers
Lloyd Cushenberry III - LSU - Guards/centers
Denzel Mims - Baylor - Wide receivers
Jeremy Chinn - Southern Illinois - Safeties
 

These guys have generally received positive reviews:-

Troy Pride Jr. - Notre Dame - Cornerbacks
Michael Ojemudia - Iowa - Cornerbacks
Terrell Burgess - Utah - Cornerbacks
Dane Jackson - Pittsburgh - Cornerbacks
Marlon Davison - Auburn - Defensive ends
Neville Gallimore - Oklahoma - Defensive tackles
Larrell Murchison - N.C. State - Defensive tackles
Kenny Willekes - Michigan State - Edge rushers
Jason Strowbridge - North Carolina - Edge rushers
Bradlee Anae - Utah - Edge rushers
Terrell Lewis - Alabama - Edge rushers
Jonah Jackson - Ohio State - Guards/centers
Ben Bredeson - Michigan - Guards/centers
Ben Bartch - Saint John's - Guards/centers
Logan Wilson - Wyoming - Inside linebackers
Josh Jones - Houston - Offensive tackles
Alex Taylor - South Carolina State - Offensive tackles
Akeem Adeniji - Kansas - Offensive tackles
Zack Baun - Wisconsin - Outside linebacker
Justin Herbert - Oregon - Quarterbacks
Eno Benjamin - Arizona State - Running backs
Alohi Gilman - Notre Dame - Safeties
Kyle Dugger - Lenoir-Rhyne - Safeties
Stephen Sullivan - LSU - Tight ends
Harrison Bryant - Florida Atlantic - Tight ends
Michael Pittman Jr. - USC - Wide receivers
Chase Claypool - Notre Dame - Wide receivers
Antonio Gandy-Golden - Liberty - Wide receivers
K.J. Hill - Ohio State - Wide receivers
Quartney Davis - Texas A&M - Wide receivers
James Proche - SMU - Wide receivers
Collin Johnson - Texas - Wide receivers
Van Jefferson - Florida - Wide receivers
 

These guys have generally received negative reviews:-

Alton Robinson - Syracuse - Edge rushers
Nick Harris - Washington - Guards/centers
Evan Weaver - Cal - Inside linebackers
Charlie Heck - North Carolina - Offensive tackles
Anthony Gordon - Washington State - Quarterbacks
Shea Patterson - Michigan - Quarterbacks
Steven Montez - Colorado - Quarterbacks
 

These guys I've heard nothing about, or generally neutral so far (might have missed some injury news):-

Lamar Jackson - Nebraska - Cornerbacks
Essang Bassey - Wake Forest - Cornerbacks
A.J. Green - Oklahoma State - Cornerbacks
Darnay Holmes - UCLA - Cornerbacks
Kindle Vildor - Georgia Southern - Cornerbacks
Reggie Robinson II - Tulsa - Cornerbacks
Carter Coughlin - Minnesota - Defensive end
Jabari Zuniga - Florida - Defensive ends
Trevis Gibson - Tulsa - Defensive ends
DaVon Hamilton - Ohio State - Defensive tackles
Darrion Daniels - Nebraska - Defensive tackles
Leki Fotu - Utah - Defensive tackles
Benito Jones - Ole Miss - Defensive tackles
Josiah Coatney - Ole Miss - Defensive tackles
Trevon Hill - Miami - Edge rushers
Darrell Taylor Jr. - Tennessee - Edge rushers
D.J. Wonnum - South Carolina - Edge rushers
Jonathan Greenard - Florida - Edge rushers
John Simpson - Clemson - Guards/centers
Logan Stenberg - Kentucky - Guards/centers
Tremayne Anchrum - Clemson - Guards/centers
Damien Lewis - LSU - Guards/centers
Keith Ismael - San Diego State - Guards/centers
Malik Harrison - Ohio State - Inside linebackers
Francis Bernard - Utah - Inside linebackers
Anfernee Jennings - Alabama - Inside linebackers
T.J. Brunson - South Carolina - Inside linebackers
Lamar Jackson - Nebraska - Inside linebackers
Trey Adams - Washington - Offensive tackles
Colton McKivitz - West Virginia - Offensive tackles
Justin Herron - Wake Forest - Offensive tackles
Matt Peart - Connecticut - Offensive tackles
Tyre Phillips - Mississippi State - Offensive tackles
Terence Steele - Texas Tech - Offensive tackles
Calvin Throckmorton - Oregon - Offensive tackles
Davion Taylor - Colorado - Outside linebackers
Akeem Davis-Gaither - Appalachian State - Outside linebackers
Cameron Brown - Penn State - Outside linebackers
Jordan Love - Utah State - Quarterbacks
Jalen Hurts - Oklahoma - Quarterbacks
Darius Anderson - TCU - Running backs
Jamycal Hasty - Baylor - Running backs
Joshua Kelley - UCLA - Running backs
Antonio Gibson - Memphis - Running backs
Lamical Perine - Florida - Running backs
Ke'Shawn Vaughn - Vanderbilt - Running backs
Khaleke Hudson - Michigan - Safeties
Jalen Elliott - Notre Dame - Safeties
Josh Metellus - Michigan - Safeties
Ashtyn Davis - Cal - Safeties
K'Von Wallace - Clemson - Safeties
Jared Mayden - Alabama - Safeties
Brian Cole II - Mississippi State - Safeties
Antoine Brooks Jr. - Maryland - Safeties
Sean McKeon - Michigan - Tight ends
Brycen Hopkins - Purdue - Tight ends
Adam Trautman - Dayton - Tight ends
Charlie Taumoepeau - Portland State - Tight ends
Jared Pinkney - Vanderbilt - Tight ends
Josiah Degaura - Cincinnati - Tight ends
Bryan Edwards - South Carolina - Wide receivers
Jauan Jennings - Tennessee - Wide receivers
Devin Duvernay - Texas - Wide receivers
Kalija Lipscomb - Vanderbilt - Wide receivers
 

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On ‎1‎/‎21‎/‎2020 at 11:06 PM, DirtyDez said:

Kinlaw has 10” hands, 34.5” arms and 84” wingspan.  Hello top 10?

You forgot the most important part, his explosion. You add elite length, with elite/borderline elite explosion numbers, and NFL level coaching, that equals living in the backfield at the next level IMO

19 hours ago, Counselor said:

Could Kinlaw pass Derrick Brown?

Brown is going to have to come with it combine time, him and Kinlaw are virtually the same size on paper, but if Brown comes in looking doughy and puts up some average numbers, the chatter is going to start IMO

17 hours ago, Jeezla said:

Gallimore working himself into late round 1
Trevis Gipson and Alton Robinson are going to be solid mid-round edges. Have to like Gipsons measurements, and he's got some burst and bend.

Probably some of the most untapped potential in this class. Dude is so explosive, and I don't know that he has gotten close to his potential. He reminds me so much of Javon Hargrave (hopefully he goes to a team that runs an even front)

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Uche looking great pass rushing and in space, can affect the game in more than one facet.

 

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