NJ Raider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 That's true, but their line is garbage. We're a true no. 1 wideout away from having a pretty impressive skill group with a top five oline when healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 If Brady does decide to go to Vegas. Do you think he will rent or buy Carrs house? haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, agarcia34 said: If Brady does decide to go to Vegas. Do you think he will rent or buy Carrs house? haha AB already called dibs on Carrs house when he got released. In some mangled english he tweeted I’ll buy Carrs house when they get rid of him in the off season with a “LOL”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Chali21 said: Allegedly Brady wants 30 mil and weapons. NE won’t be able to give him both, if they pay him they won’t have any money to add talent. If they add talent they won’t be able to pay him. Honestly if he wants to stay in NE something is going to have to give. Now LA can give him the money as they already have talented weapons. LV has the money but they still have to add weapons. LA might be the better fit for him right now as they have proven talent. LA has weapons but the line is Bottom 5-8 in the NFL. You aren’t fixing that in one off season. Not even close. Raiders have a Top 3 OL, Top 7-8 RB, Top 5 TE, Amazing Second TE, and two solid weapons in Tyrell and Renfrow. If they add a receiver in the draft it becomes a very good WR core. The overall offense is much much better than LA. I never thought Brady would choose LA over LV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: LA has weapons but the line is Bottom 5-8 in the NFL. You aren’t fixing that in one off season. Not even close. Raiders have a Top 3 OL, Top 7-8 RB, Top 5 TE, Amazing Second TE, and two solid weapons in Tyrell and Renfrow. If they add a receiver in the draft it becomes a very good WR core. The overall offense is much much better than LA. I never thought Brady would choose LA over LV. No all those guys are garbage cant get open. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 🍾 I would have to assume that it would be fully guaranteed Edited February 14, 2020 by agarcia34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, agarcia34 said: 🍾 I would have to assume that it would be fully guaranteed Yeah if this happened I’d be done with Raider football for the next 8 years. This sort of move just screams there is not long term plan. Thankfully that guy doesn’t have a blue check mark so I’m not inclined to believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chali21 said: Yeah if this happened I’d be done with Raider football for the next 8 years. This sort of move just screams there is not long term plan. Thankfully that guy doesn’t have a blue check mark so I’m not inclined to believe him. You just watched Derek Carr ran ball for 6 years plus more garbage in between and this what does it!?!?!!!? Not Derek Carr but Tom Brady coming here. You know since Gannon it’s been a nightmare and before him as well but if you are willing to sit and watch him miss 90% of the field and blame the defense for not making Carr better more power to ya i need some of these brain washing Carr cult drugs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Gannon12 said: You just watched Derek Carr ran ball for 6 years plus more garbage in between and this what does it!?!?!!!? Not Derek Carr but Tom Brady coming here. You know since Gannon it’s been a nightmare and before him as well but if you are willing to sit and watch him miss 90% of the field and blame the defense for not making Carr better more power to ya i need some of these brain washing Carr cult drugs No it’s bringing in an old player on his last legs in year 3 of Gruden. It’s not a long term plan, It’s Al Davis impulsive. When you have 10 years to coach a team you build it slowly and meticulously. Brady will at best make it to year 6 of Gruden with a reboot soon to follow. To be honest none of the FA options are very viable long term plans. Some have better due to age (Winston Mariota) but have shown very little while others (Brady Brees) have the hardware but their cheese is getting green. Honestly I’d have more hope for this teams long term success if they went and drafted love at 12. And I’d love to take drugs that make me believe a 42 year old QB that finished the season with elbow problems will some how get Better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, Chali21 said: No it’s bringing in an old player on his last legs in year 3 of Gruden. It’s not a long term plan, It’s Al Davis impulsive. When you have 10 years to coach a team you build it slowly and meticulously. Brady will at best make it to year 6 of Gruden with a reboot soon to follow. To be honest none of the FA options are very viable long term plans. Some have better due to age (Winston Mariota) but have shown very little while others (Brady Brees) have the hardware but their cheese is getting green. Honestly I’d have more hope for this teams long term success if they went and drafted love at 12. And I’d love to take drugs that make me believe a 42 year old QB that finished the season with elbow problems will some how get Better. I'm not a fan of Brady joining the Raiders. But I don't see how it would set them back or signal no long term plan. Because riding with Carr is not a long term plan either. Brady at least bring respect and a mindset of winning to the team. In Gruden's offense he could function well as a ball control QB who can pick you apart when well protected. You can have 2 years of Brady while developing a young signal caller and still build the roster through the draft. Not that I like the idea, but it's not black and white. Fact is... Gruden wants to win. So he's going to do whatever that takes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1) Raiders sign Brady 2) Raiders trade Carr 3) Raiders draft QB to sit behind Brady Is this accurate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Getting Brady is the equivalent to me of trading Mack. I'll believe when I see it and I won't know how I'll rationalize it until it happens. Lots of moving parts with both of those moves and you won't know how good it was until your at least knee deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dessie Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, big_palooka said: I'm not a fan of Brady joining the Raiders. But I don't see how it would set them back or signal no long term plan. Because riding with Carr is not a long term plan either. Brady at least bring respect and a mindset of winning to the team. In Gruden's offense he could function well as a ball control QB who can pick you apart when well protected. You can have 2 years of Brady while developing a young signal caller and still build the roster through the draft. Not that I like the idea, but it's not black and white. Fact is... Gruden wants to win. So he's going to do whatever that takes. Yeah I agree Gruden wants to win but because he needs to win. He’s 11-21 since he came back, with only 3 winning seasons since he won the SuperBowl with Dungys defense. How much extra will it cost us to bring in Brady and cut Carr? Would that cost preclude us from picking a high value defensive player that we need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) Very weird for Larry Fitz dad to come out and say that. Signing Brady would not stop the Raiders from spending big in FA. The difference in salary from Carr and Brady would be like 10 million a year if its 2 years 60 million. Also that cost can be made up by cutting a couple of guys who deserve to be cut any ways. Edited February 15, 2020 by agarcia34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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