Golfman Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: His job is not in jeporady, what are you even talking about? Why would he need to trim payroll next year? We're going to have 60 million in cap space with only three big FA that need to be resigned, Bakhtiari, Clark, and King. We have plenty of Free Agency money for next year. We could have gotten 6 million more dollars by changing Z's contact and we still would have been fine for next year. You misrepresented what I said. I said IF he had to trim payroll next year and things went south he could be in jeopardy. If he goes all in, he's pushing money into next year with restructures such as Z's contract. You push a portion of that money into future years. That is the way this works. You also understand making a splash signing would be for more than one year and also eat up some of that cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I didn't mention Tramon because I think he'll be back if we don't go CB in rounds 1-3. I hope that's the case for sure Nothing about next season makes me feel confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, ThatJerkDave said: What makes it a C plus? IMO we are a worse team than we were at the end of the season. We lost: Bulaga, Martinez, Tramon, Allison, Graham, Vitale, Veldheer. Added Wagner, Funches, and Kirksey. Inarguable step back at tackle, FB, and TE. Maybe an upgrade at WR. Probable downgrade at ILB. We are apparently trying to extend a running back, and haven't paid Kenny Clark, yet. Probably the biggest contributing factor to losing the NFCC, defensive line, has not been addressed. And we are pretty strapped for cap room. IMO, we get the old "D" for diploma. C+ isn't to far away considering what the other teams in the North did. Minnesota and Chicago got a lot worse with Detroit being Detroit. Packers lost some players but not anywhere near what Minn and Chicago did and replaced them with lesser players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Golfman said: You misrepresented what I said. I said IF he had to trim payroll next year and things went south he could be in jeopardy. If he goes all in, he's pushing money into next year with restructures such as Z's contract. You push a portion of that money into future years. That is the way this works. You also understand making a splash signing would be for more than one year and also eat up some of that cap space. We did that. We pushed a ton of Rodgers' money into next year. We then spent the offseason getting worse as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Chicago lost their best QB, Chase McDainelson. They are doomed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We did that. We pushed a ton of Rodgers' money into next year. We then spent the offseason getting worse as a team. To make room for Kirksey and Wagner. Had we not done what we'd have a whole bunch of nobody at RT and ILB. Time will tell on getting worse. I'll say this, we still have no answer for San Francisco running the ball down out throat. That much I think we agree on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Golfman said: To make room for Kirksey and Wagner. Had we not done what we'd have a whole bunch of nobody at RT and ILB. Time will tell on getting worse. I'll say this, we still have no answer for San Francisco running the ball down out throat. That much I think we agree on. Again, 8 million dollars in cap space. 12 if you cut Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I can’t get over that Yannick trade rumor. Assuming it’s true we are interested, what’s more likely: 1. We’re planning on giving up on Gary and using him in the trade 2. Gary adding weight and playing DL? I’m full paranoid conspiracy mode with our complete lack of attention to DL. Edited March 31, 2020 by Outpost31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: I can’t get over that Yannick trade rumor. Assuming it’s true we are interested, what’s more likely: 1. We’re planning on giving up on Gary and using him in the trade 2. Gary adding weight and playing DL? I’m full paranoid conspiracy mode with our complete lack of attention to DL. We're not trading for Yannick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I look at things differently. Assuming the training room doesn't become a MASH tent: Can the Packers win a Super Bowl with the current offensive line ? Can the Packers win a Super Bowl with the current crop of WR's ? The defense is a different story all together. I'm not smart enough to decide if Kirksey has the desired domino effect needed. Last year I wanted a DL with pick #12, and if available, I'm leaning that way again. We've seen the model of stopping bad teams during the year only to get blown out in record breaking fashion in the playoffs repeatedly. Does the right DL bring everything together ? That's my best guess at it. Maybe some believe a guy like Queen would do that. I don't think a guy like Jefferson (offense) does it. Just too much of a defensive dropoff to expect needle movers at #60 for the defense. If you can't fix 70-10 nothing else matters Edited March 31, 2020 by cannondale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, cannondale said: I look at things differently. Assuming the training room doesn't become a MASH tent: Can the Packers win a Super Bowl with the current offensive line ? Can the Packers win a Super Bowl with the current crop of WR's ? The defense is a different story all together. I'm not smart enough to decide if Kirksey has the desired domino effect needed. Last year I wanted a DL with pick #12, and if available, I'm leaning that way again. We've seen the model of stopping bad teams during the year only to get blown out in record breaking fashion in the playoffs repeatedly. Does the right DL bring everything together ? That's my best guess at it. Maybe some believe a guy like Queen would do that. I don't think a guy like Jefferson (offense) does it. Just too much of a defensive dropoff to expect needle movers at #60 for the defense. If you can't fix 70-10 nothing else matters I know it has been 25 years, but I don't think our OL or WRs are that much worse than the 96 squad. That DL was far superior however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Has anyone discussed the potential for a trade with the Chargers involving Desmond King? They signed Chris Harris to play the slot (Kings role). I could see a trade involving Taylor for King positions of need for both teams. Edited April 1, 2020 by Nick_gb Used the wrong "roll" stupid phone lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Nick_gb said: Has anyone discussed the potential for a trade with the Chargers involving Desmond King? They signed Chris Harris to play the slot (Kings roll). I could see a trade involving Taylor for King positions of need for both teams. I've been wondering about the Chargers as a destination for Taylor ever since they brought James Campen on board. But when I looked at their IOL depth chart it didn't seem to be lacking https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/LAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Nick_gb said: Has anyone discussed the potential for a trade with the Chargers involving Desmond King? They signed Chris Harris to play the slot (Kings roll). I could see a trade involving Taylor for King positions of need for both teams. At this point it can't hurt. I'm deeply concerned we're going to be starting Lazard, Lancaster, and Sullivan with some rookies competing and ultimately losing out to those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: I've been wondering about the Chargers as a destination for Taylor ever since they brought James Campen on board. But when I looked at their IOL depth chart it didn't seem to be lacking https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/LAC When I looked up the Charger's main needs after Free agency OG fell #2 because of Lamps injury last year and questionable play at the LG position while also wanting an upgrade at RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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