MacReady Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Didn’t Turner play tackle before he came here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Didn’t Turner play tackle before he came here? I think so...and was not very good at it. Thinking he bounced around some, then ended up in Denver, played a few different spots. Underwhelming. Then got to play guard for an extended period of time and found his home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Didn’t Turner play tackle before he came here? 5 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I think so...and was not very good at it. Thinking he bounced around some, then ended up in Denver, played a few different spots. Underwhelming. Then got to play guard for an extended period of time and found his home. He did and he played as well as they could've hoped given his situation. The fact that he stepped up and played at a level that was above average got him the contract with Green Bay not to mention his versatility in playing both inside and out. It was a bad contract(think Nick Perry) and we're going to have to probably bite some dead money at some point with it. As I suggested in another thread: we should see if Philly would bite on him and a couple picks. Perhaps we could move up Day 2 or 3 with Philly including him with a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think people are discounting Turner too quickly. Offensive linemen aren't always the best they can be from one year to the next. Lots of people wanted us to cut Bulaga to save 6 million dollars (lol) and then he had the best season from any OL on our team this year. Bakhtiari wasn't great this year either. He wasn't bad by any means, but he wasn't as good as we were accustomed to. Turner was still about an average IOL this year. When your lowest-rated OL is a 64.8 on PFF, you had a really damn strong year on the offensive line. He's going to be fine next year. The fact that he can be a swing tackle is worth his contract alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I think people are discounting Turner too quickly. Offensive linemen aren't always the best they can be from one year to the next. Lots of people wanted us to cut Bulaga to save 6 million dollars (lol) and then he had the best season from any OL on our team this year. Bakhtiari wasn't great this year either. He wasn't bad by any means, but he wasn't as good as we were accustomed to. Turner was still about an average IOL this year. When your lowest-rated OL is a 64.8 on PFF, you had a really damn strong year on the offensive line. He's going to be fine next year. The fact that he can be a swing tackle is worth his contract alone. That's not the be-all end-all. Laurent Duvarney-Tardiff had a 57.8 PFF rating and that was on a SB winning OL... Turner is a depth player that played out of his element in 2018 and was rewarded with a short-sighted contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Just now, Joe said: That's not the be-all end-all. Laurent Duvarney-Tardiff had a 57.8 PFF rating and that was on a SB winning OL... Turner is a depth player that played out of his element in 2018 and was rewarded with a short-sighted contract... Okay, this proves my point, man. If there's one thing PFF can get right it's OL play. If you're looking at a Super Bowl winning IOL who is worse than Turner, what are you complaining about Turner for? He wasn't bad. We were tied for 5th in sacks allowed this year. That's 5th best. We were 6th in adjusted sack rate. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season If you want Turner to be better, get on Aaron's case and tell him to remove his head from his ***. Quote The perception of the Packers’ offensive line doesn’t always meet reality. Aaron Rodgers consistently holds onto the football with one of the longest average time to throws in the NFL. As PFF Data Scientist Timo Riske explored with offensive line survival rates, that significantly increases the chance for quarterback pressure and sacks. Their 22nd-ranked pressure rate allowed isn’t all that impressive, but their average time to allow a pressure of 2.62 seconds (best in the NFL) is much more so. Best in the NFL in time to allow pressure and you're complaining about an average IOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: I think Bulaga is checked out as a Packer and won’t re-sign. Hopefully gets us a comp pick. Hell no, if Bulaga leaves, spend that money. Screw comp picks until Rodgers retires. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe said: He did and he played as well as they could've hoped given his situation. The fact that he stepped up and played at a level that was above average got him the contract with Green Bay not to mention his versatility in playing both inside and out. It was a bad contract(think Nick Perry) and we're going to have to probably bite some dead money at some point with it. As I suggested in another thread: we should see if Philly would bite on him and a couple picks. Perhaps we could move up Day 2 or 3 with Philly including him with a pick. Just me telling you what my eyes saw last year regarding Turner. Struggled early in the year. Was okay for a stretch in the middle, then had a couple really good games in a row, then went back to being okay again. It was an up and down year. I have to think that being in the system for a second year will benefit him greatly. I'm really not worried about our RG spot, like at all. Contract isn't that bad, either. It's fine. And he's fine. No way do I move him to tackle. No way do I trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Didn’t Turner play tackle before he came here? He diiiiiid, but according to DEN and MIA fans it was a **** show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, FinneasGage said: He diiiiiid, but according to DEN and MIA fans it was a **** show That's why I worded my post the way I did. Denver fans thought he played OK for the time he was in there and he wasn't exactly a liability, but they didn't see him as a permanent starter, at least at RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Turner can be adequate at RG. Think he'd be badly exposed at RT. I wouldn't give him any consideration for replacing Bulaga at RT. **If** that's what they were kinda hoping for when they signed him, I sure hope they discard that notion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy1027 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 For my 1/4 cents' worth, I think the Right Tackle position may play out like this--Pick Austin Jackson, OT, USC if they can get him at the end of Round One. Pick Marcus Norman, OT, South Florida, if they have to wait until Round Three. And they can always resign Bulaga for at least two/three years and wait until next year to draft an OT like Liam Eichenberg of Notre Dame, Jaylen Mayfield of Michigan or even Cole Van Lanen of the Badgers. But it's just my 1/4 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack-ManJones Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 WR Marquise Goodwin is a possible release candidate for 9ers what do you guys think of him as a possible addition to the wr core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Pack-ManJones said: WR Marquise Goodwin is a possible release candidate for 9ers what do you guys think of him as a possible addition to the wr core I like the speed for sure, but he doesn't rate very high in reliability. I'd probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't just "pass". You gotta kick those tires first, right? And...for all that he isn't...he would be the second or third best WR on our roster and I have to think his speed would be used nicely on jet sweeps and for motion plays in general. I think GB could use him...or someone like him. EDIT: Oh..and for the vet minimum. Think that about covers it. Edited February 5, 2020 by vegas492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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