coachbuns Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Once again, we know Rodgers sucks, we know. The whole team sucked against the 49ers ... twice. They have the Packers number, period. Nothing wrong with the Rodgers ranting every month. Keep the string going.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, coachbuns said: Once again, we know Rodgers sucks, we know. The whole team sucked against the 49ers ... twice. They have the Packers number, period. Nothing wrong with the Rodgers ranting every month. Keep the string going.. Except the whole team didn't suck. What was the rest of the offense doing that was bad against the 49ers? I keep seeing this nonsense posted. The offense scored 0 points and basically had only one guy dragging it down. The whole team pretty much did suck against the 49ers the first time. The second time the offensive line handled business, and the receivers were more than good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hey cool, another thread about a position that isn't QB, but dumps on our QB. Id be interested to see if we pursue Gabriel due to his LaFleur connections. I don't like this "big slot" thing we tried. You either move a stud like Adams to the slot occasionally so that he can exploit the open grass that gives you or you put a Cobb/Gabriel/Edelman type in there with short area burst and fluidity that can quickly separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Hey cool, another thread about a position that isn't QB, but dumps on our QB. Id be interested to see if we pursue Gabriel due to his LaFleur connections. I don't like this "big slot" thing we tried. You either move a stud like Adams to the slot occasionally so that he can exploit the open grass that gives you or you put a Cobb/Gabriel/Edelman type in there with short area burst and fluidity that can quickly separate. Cole Beasley was that option last off sesson. Gabriel would be a good option this offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 AR likes wrs he can trust. The only player on the market who can still kind of play is Randall Cobb. I’m pro a reunion and then a swing at a high upside rookie round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Hey cool, another thread about a position that isn't QB, but dumps on our QB. Id be interested to see if we pursue Gabriel due to his LaFleur connections. I don't like this "big slot" thing we tried. You either move a stud like Adams to the slot occasionally so that he can exploit the open grass that gives you or you put a Cobb/Gabriel/Edelman type in there with short area burst and fluidity that can quickly separate. How many of the undersized dudes have any vertical skills? That slot guy's ability to run vertically is becoming more and move vital against the most common defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Don't think those slot receiver types are Aaron's ideal targets. Evidence is there to suggest that Rodgers does not like those small catch radius receivers. 2016: Cobb - 3.4 yards of separation per target. Adams - 2.9 yards of separation per target. Nelson - 2.7 yards of separation per target. Cobb - 84 targets Adams - 121 targets Nelson - 152 targets 2017: Cobb - 3.7 yards of separation per target. Adams - 2.8 yards of separation per target. This is more or less the same all the way to 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: How many of the undersized dudes have any vertical skills? That slot guy's ability to run vertically is becoming more and move vital against the most common defenses. Rotate Adams or your move TE to the slot, any slot we add will not play there exclusively. Adams ability to win out of there is too valuable not to use. Hoping Sterny or Tonyan also develop the ability to stretch the seam from there. How much did Sanu in ATL or GMo here or Kupp in LA stretch the field vertically? Kupp a little bit but not his best skill, you rotate other guys in there. I prefer a true slot skillset to these big guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Don't think those slot receiver types are Aaron's ideal targets. Evidence is there to suggest that Rodgers does not like those small catch radius receivers. 2016: Cobb - 3.4 yards of separation per target. Adams - 2.9 yards of separation per target. Nelson - 2.7 yards of separation per target. Cobb - 84 targets Adams - 121 targets Nelson - 152 targets 2017: Cobb - 3.7 yards of separation per target. Adams - 2.8 yards of separation per target. This is more or less the same all the way to 2019. We ran both Nelson and Adams out of the slot too. Also Cobb played 13 games in 2016, left two of them early I believe with injury. Rodgers doesn't like RBs, rookies, TEs, slot WRs, bleh bleh bleh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Packerraymond said: Hoping Sterny or Tonyan also develop the ability to stretch the seam from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: How many of the undersized dudes have any vertical skills? That slot guy's ability to run vertically is becoming more and move vital against the most common defenses. Rumor has it...not sure where I picked it up.....that our QB sucks throwing it deep. So, might as well fill up the 15-30yd area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Leader said: Rumor has it...not sure where I picked it up.....that our QB sucks throwing it deep. So, might as well fill up the 15-30yd area. That doesn't mean you don't try. That's also often a 2nd window throw rather than the 3rd window throw that he can't seem to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Packerraymond said: Rodgers doesn't like RBs, rookies, TEs, slot WRs, bleh bleh bleh. I don't have the energy to get into it, but you know it's true. Every. Single. Game. We. Struggle. In. Rodgers. Refused. To. Move. The. Ball. By. Throwing. To. Open. Receivers. And. Took. Sacks. Or. Threw. The. Ball. Away. Putting. Us. Behind. In. Down. And. Distance. You know it's true and I'm sick of arguing it with you. Our offense thrives when he plays in it and forces a defense to cover the entire field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Rotate Adams or your move TE to the slot, any slot we add will not play there exclusively. Adams ability to win out of there is too valuable not to use. Hoping Sterny or Tonyan also develop the ability to stretch the seam from there. How much did Sanu in ATL or GMo here or Kupp in LA stretch the field vertically? Kupp a little bit but not his best skill, you rotate other guys in there. I prefer a true slot skillset to these big guys. So looking at the bold, why would we then go after an undersized "slot-guy"? Rodgers doesn't throw the inside slant to anybody, even Adams most of the time. If you're going to accept that limitation, why would you then draft a guy whose best strength is going to be that and be limited everywhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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