Consensus Scouting Report - Joe Burrow, QB, LSU

[AlNFL19]

Let's see what people really think of the No. 1 overall pick this coming April.

Reminder: Questions are multiple choice.

[BayRaider]

Elite: Decision Making, Accuracy, Leadership, Mechanics, Release, Pocket Awareness 

Average: Arm Strength, Mobility. 

[warsawian]

This thing is flawed...it won't let me select zero poor qualities. 

Elite: Decision Making, Accuracy, Leadership, Mechanics, Mobility, Pocket Awareness 

Average: Arm Strength, Release

Poor: Sustained college production

[SmittyBacall]

The amount of people who categorize Burrow's mobility as poor is concerning. It's one of his best features.

[goldfishwars]

Probably need a 'Leave Blank' option in these polls

[MWil23]

Joe Burrow is a solid college athlete. In the NFL, he will be a plus athlete at the position, but not a "good" one. That's not a knock, but rather, if you look at the tiers for athleticism:

ELITE:

Jackson

Watson

Kyler Murray

(Formerly Cam/still if healthy)

REALLY Good:

Wilson

Allen

Marcus Mariota

Tyrod Taylor

Good:

Mahomes

Dak

Rodgers

Average/Above Average/were athletic in college:

Baker Mayfield

Joe Burrow

Tua

Andy Dalton

 

[DoleINGout]

24 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

It's one of his best features.

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[SmittyBacall]

@MWil23 I suggest you watch more of Burrow because he's certainly more athletic than the group you have him listed in. 

[MWil23]

1 minute ago, SmittyBacall said:

@MWil23 I suggest you watch more of Burrow because he's certainly more athletic than the group you have him listed in. 

Respectfully, I've seen him all the way back to HS (I coach HS Football here in Ohio). He's definitely a plus athlete. He's not going to be NFL athletic. He'll be great at extending the play/throwing on the run, and navigating the pocket, but he's not going to outrun EDGE defenders at the next level IMO.

[Scoundrel]

Bottom line is Burrow is just an average player. His physical skill set is limiting him and his 60 TDS and beating so many top teams was all on the players around him. He didn’t lift his team up at all and with the Bengals he is going to be Akili Smith. Thread

[SmittyBacall]

Just now, MWil23 said:

He'll be great at extending the play/throwing on the run, and navigating the pocket, 

Are you talking about athleticism or mobility because they're intertwined but I don't necessarily think they're the same thing. Burrow has great mobility, you said it yourself, he's great at evading the rush, working outside the pocket, extending the play etc.

7 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

he's not going to outrun EDGE defenders at the next level IMO.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I would consider Burrow a plus athlete at the position. I've seen enough of him running around the SEC to believe it will translate to the next level. I've never seen Mayfield of Dalton move like this (the video below). This isn't the cut up of an average athlete at the QB position:

 

[MWil23]

1 minute ago, SmittyBacall said:

Are you talking about athleticism or mobility because they're intertwined but I don't necessarily think they're the same thing. Burrow has great mobility, you said it yourself, he's great at evading the rush, working outside the pocket, extending the play etc.

I consider athleticism separate in terms of being a running threat of some kind, open field ability to make defenders miss, the ability to get to the edge consistently to get a 1st down, etc. Pocket mobility and throwing on the run I'm saying completely separate.

1 minute ago, SmittyBacall said:

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I would consider Burrow a plus athlete at the position. I've seen enough of him running around the SEC to believe it will translate to the next level. I've never seen Mayfield of Dalton move like this (the video below). This isn't the cut up of an average athlete at the QB position:

 

I mean, I said he's a "plus athlete". He's in the average/above average category. He's not going to be the running threat in the NFL or make defenses account for him the way that he was in college.

[SmittyBacall]

1 minute ago, MWil23 said:

I mean, I said he's a "plus athlete". He's in the average/above average category. He's not going to be the running threat in the NFL or make defenses account for him the way that he was in college.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. 

[MWil23]

2 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said:

I guess we'll have to wait and see. 

Absolutely. To be fair, I'll be SHOCKED if he runs a sub 4.6 forty at the combine, and surprised if it's a sub 4.65. That's not a knock, that just means he's not going to have "great" positional athleticism.

I'm a HUGE Joe Burrow fan. Go see what I marked "excellent" on (4-5 things) and "average" on (arm strength and athleticism) and "poor" on (nothing).

That said, I don't see a "WOW" athlete or even a "they need to account for him with a LB in man coverage" athlete.

[BroncosFan2010]

I suspect he lands around 4.75 in the 40. Certainly enough mobility, but I dont think he will show Luck like athleticism (4.65 40, 36' vert). He is fine getting yards on the broken plays though, this isnt Joe Flacco.